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Why can substitutes not be offered for ZFS as a standalone module? I'm not a lawyer nor do I understand much lawyerese, but AIUI, the problem stems from the FSF lawyers thinking it wouldn't stand up in court to distribute CDDL software linked against GPL'd software as one big binary. Could someone ple= ase explain why it would not be acceptable to distribute substitutes of ZFS as a *standalone kernel module*, rather than as a part of linux-libre? Thanks! -- Domagoj --lt8mZB6dcKHtcjUW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEE7JyU1wrLyiw5G92zcc2InUujXj0FAmDgzKUACgkQcc2InUuj Xj3MORAAh5hqQd8D9SjxoY3Fs4cxordqjX8ar+AZyMUeH5695MZD+ZptywSQA38O ZvAldo3+TkSICXgE8MVmpyM5kh04oY5BgY2CaBZsXGbO/qL/XgGCNhVAp2spzGXO 0GFmN+r6VIOMsa3PPKllglXy3HKk+OHtg78At1yfLaXjSxomgwj1Iss8E4mM4rhn ye1vlEEq9b2u2hTLISFmGV7XUGMnqwR0OxmemxvLgDhtCIyLs8zeYbxMJXQ2gCyB NsJSCpRZAIxJjcasZ7zxK0mV8iEO7mB5gfbLB996wEn7Rf92zpavuOPWXuYxoYZD CZh1C+sBBospgWw66Ed88aF/TBHfHQ2EvlnD17KjwsqKi8lLHxMiLfzAjUzdhKKB O/pmGAg/ZF+mheQUsr5AhYBAdri1qZNUGBh5eHpPJeWLR0PCBjI8JlmwaSAQajhh 07+HzlC+Z6awt0bfGJCmiTaE4/RBZbioIh83R7kBv1au8tY/agzBOHRDVA4K1W07 BMsJJcwnud7DmCHZOPJei3BK62vla7gsF86VV8YW30ffwv39MqS1EThMRPxDda3c xJCamx7s+5SC/Re5964P9gA72si1tbUHh711O1cdkTLkZa9U11/XNCkaI+Zbie1B +1rEf79/VEVcnya5vljAvT5rtg/dXskpr9cVG3VHZF4Dw09S23U= =Xh+z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lt8mZB6dcKHtcjUW--