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My > > > understanding is that they figured something out. =C2=A0Worth a shot,= but > > > I=E2=80=99d rather the problem be fixed upstream. It will just take > > > collaboration. > >=20 > > I did not check their tollchain lately, but package-earch still does not > > show many packages . > > Last time I check, they basically do what guix does: compile everything > > from source - again and again. > >=20 > Just checked: Debian has quite some source packages [1], which even list > "binary" packages (which are development packages). Anyhow it seems as if > these are just the source again [2] >=20 > [1] > [2] > >=20 My understanding is that they pool together all the sources that they have and then build all the rust packages in one go. --=20 Efraim Flashner =D7=90=D7=A4=D7=A8=D7=99=D7=9D = =D7=A4=D7=9C=D7=A9=D7=A0=D7=A8 GPG key =3D A28B F40C 3E55 1372 662D 14F7 41AA E7DC CA3D 8351 Confidentiality cannot be guaranteed on emails sent or received unencrypted --b1wQMGjjrwJWsgAR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEEoov0DD5VE3JmLRT3Qarn3Mo9g1EFAmC/NT0ACgkQQarn3Mo9 g1Ej3g//THRXfpNgLVItseMCbXQLwxe03zVsOmuopzFvMsaEQbYdGdmsutOJBYj4 5+8wTWAgRr53spxGC7CUdEIhpFWXIvhyJwdcz5NkWRu/yFK0PboYGsVjPvvGxIjR zj3v+5T1aQD13VffA8nomlpYXopbWtMNw0ZV5bZOITB/HdLAVSbhKLGao5DmfK5G TLE21bUSX/hwZHtP3jY9TVcdRk5uQ24OmTXaMAIyft6i3T/95eXC+1qlmihkfsVh lxovM+KcxjYV6bZVuo99iQo85hGNbfnd371nAjNTjahQbUe4uyvIvcjQqjaMTBsf ofBRQgrx8m8p243M/Aa30tuLno9Sx5CXKozCwU3kHxc5gdSDwn3QDf0feMnGEsLH Q+VOzRMl6baIcnSb5o9Wgw/56iLJ43wJt5G0+pHJBp0ndvlB2qk+mJW6X/PvpCzV R2O41wyeYN/PCoyqukuvx432qomd4g6K7SqoHjvfh/uYXiKdRLVOtzRauIm10AD0 oyVxn1z2x9uVjLF72fUk62RgE/bxb3tv0/LXTb9bzfYv+5h7zPUipNtNbguJoPKx n51zEeH6t7HM3XJVG1cRc33VgkPxuzGfsV8zB9ooA0lM1/UbjZjB1aBucpRZZkz/ U7Uq/t2rMhfjr5G9X0IeUX3jAH0z4GT7PTL+ux27mEB+Mjb/kxY= =rb/f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --b1wQMGjjrwJWsgAR--