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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Guix Devel , Mathieu Othacehe , Maxim Cournoyer Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1619044013; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=B5iASpR75LThFicU1Cds3cUWi0ajNYajNwouiuX3rU0=; b=JB8gyyv0tGCWopeMNzx4pE1giincufpgQtoqYt5RbLDG/XrfTueJSklo2/ugzu2uFv/R7Y 22ZXxh6z6kLbs1JcmhJRsUgC5+hpHJV6e2l8H2vFzYgmyHCgkGmjY9pgjBplJJs9od1NA/ UMIdolrq3ffoZ5fuHDeEim8c8UlSqim7vQ9pBxc+CYjXFWaOx6CG1PQjRCjj6qvUIlePoM r5v2S5n6M4ojQ+gFw1vTB4X/uAUuhpD2l3J9LbFOXxHLpbEd8xTNqq+wlDqSws70MEvWCq 1HT9jkKBmhA/yLaxyet2MXn1FssLQ3defnx2Bsn7ytaQwzBL+2Rv3+Zo6L0L0w== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1619044013; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=XENvyU5w6DIVoF9UyGBwBwpzAdh+nJJA9Dawn3u5h/3s1J/iSailGPutNlpgN69+QvX38J ULl0Sz8I9MLgX+gnNOp/iOHerMu+ly7yYBnCfSDu4wJC4eXOJeLSACr2Dm04QH3ONoS4+s +6gs7KjMvPSdS4LzX4jW1E+h3h/Pw6qR2vRo0BLRfqZZCjFnrO4Vy8K4q+a5rxmkJRe1Jp mF1ohEVPuJSAucuOMwT6jOvyf2+r6WuGj6V2F4Rg84nM2quiH6IZMNx8CUYG4irLegOLC0 dpCs/xKU92TFqQaKXKf0sulVT2w+Q3NN4Bg+oQtg8l6Tb0jU5cIVskd5yrId9g== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=famulari.name header.s=mesmtp header.b="pcom/2iS"; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm2 header.b=wKy8+7bU; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.04 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=famulari.name header.s=mesmtp header.b="pcom/2iS"; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm2 header.b=wKy8+7bU; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 2B768217C2 X-Spam-Score: -2.04 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: ZfLs0nzrwB5V --tzQ7A06ek5kE4QoM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 04:47:06PM -0400, Mark H Weaver wrote: > I just noticed that 'glib' is still grafted on the 'wip-ungrafting' > branch. Was that intentional? >=20 > https://git.sv.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git/tree/gnu/packages/glib.scm?h=3Dwip-u= ngrafting&id=3De12210dc92098d8581cea3007d57dbb6be16bb41#n171 Yes. For that branch I only selected grafts that I judged to be "simple". There are many other grafts still in place on that branch. My criteria for simplicity are grafts that either apply one or two patches, or are minor version upgrades of projects that are known to care about ABI compatibility. We want to ungraft as much as possible for the upcoming release, to improve performance of package operations. However, we lack the time and humanpower to validate the ungrafting of the more complicated grafts in time for the release. Some of the remaining grafts should never have been made, in my opinion, and I want to discuss our policies on this subject =E2=80=94 after the release. In any case, I'm not confident that we will include wip-ungrafting in the release. 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