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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Guix Devel Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1615754642; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=cboyDt+w9TJQttDoNjk+KOhSILpabEWtpMUdFPZcFQk=; b=OobOJhHFQzP/2gUmuLinqadn6jBphZTpQv5oZ8a3pfk0sjkApIfUzsX84vdG6IxkT3SRFf We8Uz9MAvF0ejwkxDXE3WLhqK0Cy6XFXPFKrkzduMmOU3J563HTBASGDl0sqQWTMTo5ebH JGFuYpbKY9LwC/JDugJG43YtGnEiTdoOxLuqoA7WMnGBgzx4KpAzSylnRxHNPyT/g9cWXB hKAdXSvvDaN+dgKzNRJ8D7uX5RXSk7pQ5fjycsfyU1iQgghCyxJSeXCDb4/JBQATi/DXY9 rjhHfB6XuJfZ/osJtN+f5bZ0otiozlfi7mAOF9D0pdVCLCgft/XZGmrXCgwOEw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1615754642; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=GPArvIVjAcX4glFNq5eKlXBNaXOtdDETKvUtG/K7bgY5HhqldekvbnbpEDP9qUAKiiAiT4 bSQnaWa4nvSTejjq9LdTt+REmLvK8pYwMWwTAQVHFqnl9FWIbbBrENQkIJROpvUs6mwG7I EguS+4Xp+O9hQF5IEikRHtFrxxiOetaky8dL35kZUYGNjmr4w2j+G9/aNFTIOQxS4n+drX SfIOKZlxr5inOMX4A1R+HYjsuJULXhVWthGvjuE21WRaujUYvNWYRGHM02Bw/EQmCYAy8O kvSRxa89jTSFhLbOy1PPIpeu0EfYZKNakxA4Qr/7rrHEa2N8MWWGG4okwLpSFA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=famulari.name header.s=mesmtp header.b=bPOHAHyJ; dkim=pass header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm2 header.b=EjgNHwb1; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.60 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=famulari.name header.s=mesmtp header.b=bPOHAHyJ; dkim=pass header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm2 header.b=EjgNHwb1; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: CF1C51F858 X-Spam-Score: -2.60 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: l+E63SKSoMFi On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 02:16:16PM +0100, zimoun wrote: > Updating the package r-chemminer, it leads to this huge stack of > grafts. To be concrete, it is 84 grafts for a “simple” R packages. On > my machine, the grafting steps are longer than building (compiling and R > dance). The performance of grafting largely corresponds to I/O speed. > We definitively need a way to tackle this. Maybe when is in frozen > state, we could spend 2-5 days to tackle as much as graft that we can. > > The previous Leo’s initiative is really worth and maybe we should have a > hackathon or something because my feeling is that more grafts are added > than removed. To clarify: the number of grafts added is exactly the same number of grafts that are removed. But, it takes longer to remove them, because ungrafted requires us to recompile every affected package.