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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Guix Devel Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -0.36 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=famulari.name header.s=mesmtp header.b=TtGk9Vqi; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=messagingengine.com header.s=fm2 header.b=WmDUUASz; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 9C6CB9402BD X-Spam-Score: -0.36 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: SShMPOWLrmDS On Tue, Feb 02, 2021 at 06:35:14PM +0100, Nicoḷ Balzarotti wrote: > Bengt Richter writes: > > > Hi Yasu, > > > > "Just curious", what do you hope will be the effect of your post? > > > Hi Bengt Richter, thanks for asking the same things I had in mind. This > post seems just M$ propaganda, more than a "Is anybody working on the > inclusion of Powershell?" > > From Yasu's mail, when I read: > > I say Powershell is almost synonymous with IT worker rights > > I was really wondering what was happening here. I mean, we are talking > about a M$ product, right? I really can't see how this statement can > hold true. If it means "when I'm _forced_ to work on windows, > powershell is the lest worse thing", then fine. But I don't get how > having it available in guix would help then. I understand that there may be an atmosphere of suspicion regarding Microsoft within a GNU project, but we should really try to give a more charitable interpretation to messages on the Guix mailing lists, especially if we aren't sure what the sender meant. Remember, Yasu will read your replies, too. I don't use Windows regularly, but Powershell seems *really* cool. It's a very different paradigm than the Unix shell. It seems like it was designed to solve a lot of the limitations and quirks that plague Unix shell scripting. It may be that Powershell won't catch on because shell scripting isn't popular on Windows, but Unix + Powershell sounds amazing, and I've been interested in it for years.