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From: Efraim Flashner <efraim@flashner.co.il>
To: Timothy Sample <samplet@ngyro.com>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, bootstrappable@freelists.org
Subject: Re: wip-full-source-bootstrap: from a 357-byte `hex0' to 'hello'
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 20:48:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YA8Sd/mVTs0yDo+F@3900XT> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87v9brbbtm.fsf@ngyro.com>

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On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 03:19:49PM -0500, Timothy Sample wrote:
> Hi janneke,
> 
> Jan Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > I have reset Guix' wip-full-source-bootstrap branch with a first working
> > implementation of the, well, "Full Source Bootstrap" for x86-linux (and
> > x86_64-linux).  This bootstrap is rooted in the 357-byte hex0-seed from
> > the Stage0 project (https://savannah.gnu.org/projects/stage0).
> 
> The dream is alive!  Congratulations on this big leap forward!
> 
> > When you look at the bottom of the graph (see attached), you will notice
> > "%bootstrap-guile": the driver that we use for the Guix build and also
> > for "bootar", "gash", and "gash-utils".  This "%bootstrap-guile" is not
> > used as a seed in anything that is built, "%bootstrap-guile", "bootar",
> > "gash", and "gash-utils" could be replaced with any other driver.
> 
> I never mentioned it, but a few months ago I took a little look at
> porting Gash & friends to Mes.  The big issue that I ran into is that
> Mes doesn’t really have a module system.  My plan was to build up Mes
> modules and strip down Gash requirements until they met in the middle.
> Sometime (probably not worth derailing this thread right now) we should
> discuss what needs to be done for Mes modules.  (It looked like
> something I could do with a little guidance on the design.)
> 
> > XXX TODO:
> >    * wip-full-source-bootstrap
> >      [...]
> >    * wip-arm-bootstrap
> >      - finish; currently stuck on gawk-mesboot0
> >      [...]
> 
> It looks like you’ve made a lot of progress on this already (judging by
> the rest of this thread).  However, if it helps, the current Gash-Utils
> awk could _probably_ be used to skip most (all?) of the old versions of
> Gawk.
> 
> Sorry I can’t be more helpful ATM.  I appreciate the work you do to keep
> this project rolling!
> 

Using this post as inspiration I replaced diffutils-mesboot with
gash-utils-boot. diffutils-mesboot provided cmp and diff, both of which
are available in gash-utils. Unfortunately sed from gash-utils-boot
didn't seem to work so I wasn't able to remove that.

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-25 18:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-04 17:01 wip-full-source-bootstrap: from a 357-byte `hex0' to 'hello' Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2021-01-05  0:49 ` [bootstrappable] " jeremiah
2021-01-05 16:58 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2021-01-06 11:32 ` [bootstrappable] " Ludovic Courtès
2021-01-06 11:46   ` [bootstrappable] " Andrius Štikonas via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2021-01-06 14:03     ` Orians, Jeremiah (DTMB)
2021-01-14 21:37     ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-01-15  1:27       ` jeremiah
2021-01-21 11:09         ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-01-21 17:52           ` Orians, Jeremiah (DTMB)
2021-01-28 13:40             ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-01-28 13:44               ` Orians, Jeremiah (DTMB)
2021-01-06 14:38 ` [bootstrappable] " Paul Sherwood
2021-01-07 10:43   ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2021-01-07 20:10     ` [bootstrappable] " Danny Milosavljevic
2021-01-07 20:23       ` Danny Milosavljevic
2021-01-07 22:52         ` Danny Milosavljevic
2021-01-08  6:25           ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2021-01-08  8:05             ` [Tinycc-devel] " arnold
2021-01-08 13:02               ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2021-01-08 13:43             ` Danny Milosavljevic
2021-01-08 14:07               ` Danny Milosavljevic
2021-01-08 16:15                 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2021-01-08 18:56                   ` Danny Milosavljevic
2021-01-08 21:11                     ` Danny Milosavljevic
2021-01-08 22:13                       ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2021-01-08  7:16           ` [Tinycc-devel] " grischka
2021-01-08 13:25             ` Danny Milosavljevic
2021-01-08 13:36               ` [bootstrappable] Re: [Tinycc-devel] " Orians, Jeremiah (DTMB)
2021-01-08 15:16                 ` [Tinycc-devel] [bootstrappable] " Vincent Lefevre
2021-01-08 16:12               ` [Tinycc-devel] [bootstrappable] " Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2021-01-25 22:47       ` ARM Unified Assembly Language - GNU as does some weird stuff Danny Milosavljevic
2021-01-25 23:12         ` [bootstrappable] " Orians, Jeremiah (DTMB)
2021-01-26  1:14         ` Danny Milosavljevic
2021-01-08  0:29 ` wip-full-source-bootstrap: from a 357-byte `hex0' to 'hello' Jan Wielkiewicz
2021-01-20 20:19 ` Timothy Sample
2021-01-25 18:48   ` Efraim Flashner [this message]
2021-01-29  7:23     ` [bootstrappable] " Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2021-01-29 10:18       ` andrius--- via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2021-01-29 16:02         ` Orians, Jeremiah (DTMB)

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