From: Lars-Dominik Braun <lars@6xq.net>
To: Ryan Prior <ryanprior@hey.com>
Cc: Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution
<guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Questions regarding Python packaging
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 12:47:03 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YA6vt2A6NL488fHt@noor.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7032ec8d7a89cfead7b12547e33ad83c3fee7dc6@hey.com>
Hi Ryan,
> I think if we do that then Python will need a treatment similar to GCC,
> where we don't expose the package and instead offer a compound package
> (could be called "python-toolchain" or just "python") which includes pip
> and setuptools. The last decades of python packaging have trained people
> that when you install python you get pip and setuptools as well, I think
> we should not try to be too clever and violate that assumption.
this change is actually more about moving forward and adding PEP 517
support to python-build-system. Being able to demote setuptools and pip
to ordinary packages is merely a side-effect, because they’re not
essential any more.
Your mail seems to be incomplete, it stopped after:
> Also, for what it's worth, we already have python-minimal which doesn't
> have pip, and it's only
Cheers,
Lars
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-01-25 11:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-11-08 14:27 Questions regarding Python packaging Tanguy Le Carrour
2020-11-08 17:05 ` Leo Famulari
2020-11-10 8:35 ` Tanguy Le Carrour
2020-11-08 20:43 ` Michael Rohleder
2020-11-10 8:30 ` Tanguy Le Carrour
2020-11-09 16:54 ` Hartmut Goebel
2020-11-10 8:47 ` Tanguy Le Carrour
2020-11-10 8:53 ` Hartmut Goebel
2021-01-05 10:25 ` Lars-Dominik Braun
2021-01-06 15:32 ` Tanguy LE CARROUR
2021-01-22 8:38 ` Tanguy LE CARROUR
2021-01-23 12:34 ` Lars-Dominik Braun
2021-01-24 13:30 ` Tanguy LE CARROUR
2021-01-24 20:54 ` Ryan Prior
2021-01-25 11:47 ` Lars-Dominik Braun [this message]
2021-01-25 16:57 ` Ryan Prior
2021-02-05 10:40 ` Hartmut Goebel
2021-05-17 6:24 ` Lars-Dominik Braun
2021-06-06 16:44 ` Tanguy LE CARROUR
2021-06-06 19:44 ` Lars-Dominik Braun
2021-06-22 6:53 ` Removal of Python 2? Hartmut Goebel
2021-06-22 12:41 ` Konrad Hinsen
2021-06-23 15:26 ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-06-23 15:34 ` zimoun
2021-06-23 18:32 ` Konrad Hinsen
2021-06-22 18:02 ` Ryan Prior
2021-06-25 6:37 ` Konrad Hinsen
2021-06-22 7:00 ` Questions regarding Python packaging Hartmut Goebel
2021-06-28 11:59 ` Lars-Dominik Braun
2021-06-28 20:37 ` Hartmut Goebel
2021-06-29 7:20 ` Lars-Dominik Braun
2021-07-06 12:16 ` [bug#46848] " Lars-Dominik Braun
2021-07-07 15:01 ` Hartmut Goebel
2021-01-26 7:21 ` Tanguy LE CARROUR
2021-01-27 3:43 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2021-01-06 15:37 ` Tanguy LE CARROUR
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