From: Attila Lendvai <attila@lendvai.name>
To: Felix Lechner <felix.lechner@lease-up.com>
Cc: Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net>,
Suhail Singh <suhailsingh247@gmail.com>,
Cayetano Santos <csantosb@inventati.org>,
Greg Hogan <code@greghogan.com>,
guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: On the quest for a new release model
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2024 20:53:26 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <WGHRB2dbA5dNn7BGkIwCM3ZqT0tPVlTb7J5JApTJIMthPOJz3VeEknJkCHEnH9cypus-bGOFYUZo8oSQkz_svwtjpSrOAOJpctC4fh6DHuY=@lendvai.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ed2bkwpz.fsf@lease-up.com>
> Our releases should mean something.
one thing i haven't seen mentioned:
AFAIU, not any version of guix can pull and build another guix version. i.e. when the guix command gets a new feature that is then used in the code that pulls and builds itself, then we have a bootstrap/staging problem not unlike with self-hosting compilers.
compilers usually use versioned releases to also mark the stages where stage n-1 is guaranteed to be able to build stage n.
i'm not sure how it is currently handled in guix. actually, i cannot come up with an example right now that requires bootstrapping, nor do i know how guix time-machine handles this. i assume everything around the pulling and building infrastructure is kept backwards compatible, so going back in time is not an issue.
but i do seem to remember a case where pulling from an old enough guix requires manual staging with `guix pull --commit=v1.2.3` to avoid pulling in too fresh commits that the current guix command wouldn't be able to build.
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Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-02-09 12:19 Discussion notes on releases and branches Andreas Enge
2023-02-12 21:13 ` Moving forward with teams and feature branches (was: Discussion notes on releases and branches) Josselin Poiret
2023-02-12 21:34 ` Andreas Enge
2023-02-13 9:32 ` Time for RFC? (was Re: Moving forward with teams and feature branches (was: Discussion notes on releases and branches)) zimoun
2023-02-13 14:07 ` Moving forward with teams and feature branches (was: Discussion notes on releases and branches) Andreas Enge
2023-02-14 19:12 ` Leo Famulari
2023-02-13 9:22 ` Release (was " Simon Tournier
2023-02-14 10:14 ` Rust team branch " Efraim Flashner
2023-02-14 16:36 ` Rust team branch Andreas Enge
2023-02-14 20:07 ` Efraim Flashner
2023-02-16 10:56 ` Andreas Enge
2023-02-14 16:36 ` Rust team branch (was Re: Discussion notes on releases and branches) Katherine Cox-Buday
2023-02-14 20:08 ` Efraim Flashner
2023-02-15 17:49 ` Katherine Cox-Buday
2023-03-17 15:24 ` Discussion notes on releases and branches Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2023-03-18 17:42 ` Leo Famulari
2024-12-13 8:37 ` On the quest for a new release model (was: Discussion notes on releases and branches) Cayetano Santos
2024-12-13 12:03 ` On the quest for a new release model Ricardo Wurmus
2024-12-13 13:01 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-13 15:21 ` Greg Hogan
2024-12-13 15:52 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-13 16:05 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-13 16:28 ` Cayetano Santos
2024-12-13 17:21 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-13 20:34 ` Cayetano Santos
2024-12-13 22:13 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2024-12-13 22:27 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-13 23:08 ` Felix Lechner via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-12-14 1:38 ` John Kehayias via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-12-14 17:18 ` kiasoc5
2024-12-14 18:00 ` Cayetano Santos
2024-12-14 20:53 ` Attila Lendvai [this message]
2024-12-13 16:04 ` Simon Josefsson via Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution.
2024-12-13 17:47 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-13 20:14 ` Tomas Volf
2024-12-13 22:13 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-14 8:59 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2024-12-14 14:23 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-14 12:26 ` Tomas Volf
2024-12-14 14:49 ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-14 8:53 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2024-12-14 17:21 ` Splitting up Guix channel (was: On the quest for a new release model) Suhail Singh
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