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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Spam-Score: -10.91 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: DB4587A8E2 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx10.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -10.91 X-TUID: vQAFLa2r0Gcm Hello Ian. I cannot help you since I don't have commit access. But I want to thank you for your hard work, I'm currently using your package. I can only echo your frustration since I also have some patches ready to be merged that seem to be forgotten. As it has been discussed in the past, Guix is growing, but there are not enough hands to merge all the contributions that come through. We should try to come up with a solution that alleviates the burden on the maintainers. Given how often this issue arises, what if we try, as a collective, to suggest new mechanisms that would improve the situation? If I recall correctly, someone suggested having a development branch in which, once the QA passes, the patches get automatically merged. I know some people rose concerns about the slowness of the QA system for this to be an effective solution, and there is also the issue ordering the patch application. If the previous solution is ruled out, I would like to know the opinion of the Guix community on a voting system. I'm imagining a system where we reuse the mailing infrastructure we have, where each accepted mail in the guix devel mailing list has 1 vote for a given patch, that way we avoid multiple votes from the same entity and would allow people without commit access, but active on the Guix development, to participate. So, we could set up a threshold where if a patch gets 10 votes from non-committers the merge would be done; preferably automated, but if it's not possible, committers would know what is ready to be merged without effort and what the community wants. Regards, Sergio.