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Not > > everyone can handle the load of incoming mail in the ML. On the GNOME > > 40 upgrade for example I linked the mailing list thread on the wiki > > page also. The wiki page is also more likely to get outdated if it > > doesnt have great visibility on the GNU Guix official website, that, > > for sure. > > Yeah, I agree that it's hard to learn about "what's cooking" when you > first arrive at the mailing lists. > > It's true that wikis tend to get out of date, but I think that it won't > be too bad for this use case. At least, it won't be worse than the > mailing lists, for newcomers who want to know about longer-term efforts > like the GNOME upgrade. I just sent a patch to include a link to the wiki in the Help page (https:/= /issues.guix.gnu.org/47555). If the patch is applied, I can send a separate patch to update the Help men= u as Vincent suggested: Help =E2=80=A2 GNU Guix Manual =E2=80=A2 Videos =E2=80=A2 Cookbook =E2=80=A2 GNU Manuals =E2=80=A2 Wiki =E2=80=A2 IRC Chat =E2=80=A2 Mailing lists If people think it's ok.