Hurd status?

Hurd status?

[Svante Signell]

Hello,

I've followed this list for some time now, but not subscribed until
now. I know Manolis Ragkousis has been working on making GNU/Hurd
running under Guix and Shepherd. What is the current status? How much
work is needed to be fully supported? And which are the current
problems?

What about also supporting kFreeBSD?

Thanks! 

Re: Hurd status?

[Manolis Ragkousis]

Hello Svante,

Unfortunately I am so overworked that I am not able to work a lot on the
project at the current time. Rene is doing some progress with actually
getting GuixSD up and running.

Thank you,
Manolis

On 4/13/19 12:31 PM, Svante Signell wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I've followed this list for some time now, but not subscribed until
> now. I know Manolis Ragkousis has been working on making GNU/Hurd
> running under Guix and Shepherd. What is the current status? How much
> work is needed to be fully supported? And which are the current
> problems?
> 
> What about also supporting kFreeBSD?
> 
> Thanks! 
> 
> 

Re: Hurd status?

[Rene]

Hello,

Only to share the status of the tests I have done:

* Currently I run Guix (v0.14.0) on Debian/Hurd which takes approximately 2 days to compile and generate the Hurd binaries through `guix system init ..`.

* There are some details with glibc-2.28 and guile-2.2.4, as described:

a) https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2018-12/msg00364.html
b) https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2019-02/msg00335.html

* I have done tests for manual activation and creation of users for the first time in Guix style and it works (Removing packages and dependencies).

* About Shepherd, some services start, most have dependencies on the services of `file-system- *`; I think more knowledge is required to repair this.

These are my experiences at the moment.


Thank you
Rene


‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On Saturday, April 13, 2019 10:24 AM, Manolis Ragkousis <manolis837@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Svante,
>
> Unfortunately I am so overworked that I am not able to work a lot on the
> project at the current time. Rene is doing some progress with actually
> getting GuixSD up and running.
>
> Thank you,
> Manolis
>
> On 4/13/19 12:31 PM, Svante Signell wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > I've followed this list for some time now, but not subscribed until
> > now. I know Manolis Ragkousis has been working on making GNU/Hurd
> > running under Guix and Shepherd. What is the current status? How much
> > work is needed to be fully supported? And which are the current
> > problems?
> > What about also supporting kFreeBSD?
> > Thanks!

Re: Hurd status?

[Svante Signell]

On Sat, 2019-04-13 at 21:03 +0000, Rene wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Only to share the status of the tests I have done:
> 
> * Currently I run Guix (v0.14.0) on Debian/Hurd which takes
> approximately 2 days to compile and generate the Hurd binaries
> through `guix system init ..`.
> 
> * There are some details with glibc-2.28 and guile-2.2.4, as
> described:
> 
> a) 
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2018-12/msg00364.html
> b) 
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2019-02/msg00335.html
> 
> * I have done tests for manual activation and creation of users for
> the first time in Guix style and it works (Removing packages and
> dependencies).
> 
> * About Shepherd, some services start, most have dependencies on the
> services of `file-system- *`; I think more knowledge is required to
> repair this.
> 
> These are my experiences at the moment.

Thanks for your reply: I'll start reading on how to use Guix and
Shepherd. One question about the Hurd stuff: How many of the Debian
patches to gnumach/mig/hurd/glibc did you apply for your build?

Re: Hurd status?

[Ludovic Courtès]

Hello Svante,

Svante Signell <svante.signell@gmail.com> skribis:

> Thanks for your reply: I'll start reading on how to use Guix and
> Shepherd. One question about the Hurd stuff: How many of the Debian
> patches to gnumach/mig/hurd/glibc did you apply for your build?

Very few!  You can see them on their page at
<https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/packages/>.  For instance, we use
stock glibc 2.28 with just the PID magic lookup (for the Hurd bits):

  https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git/tree/gnu/packages/base.scm?id=v0.16.0-4337-gd8bead6c5d#n619
  https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/guix.git/tree/gnu/packages/patches/glibc-hurd-magic-pid.patch?id=v0.16.0-4337-gd8bead6c5d

Ludo’.