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We get copyright assignments for them, and we work on them just as if they were in the Emacs core. Indeed, we can move them between GNU ELPA and the core when that is useful. The packages in NonGNU ELPA are really not part of GNU Emacs, and you can see that in every aspect of how we treat them. We do not maintain them; we do not host their development; we don't deal with their copyrights. They can't go into Emacs core. All we do with them is inform users about the possibility of using them. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)