* The broken 0.13 release for GuixSD
@ 2017-05-24 7:59 ng0
2017-05-24 8:41 ` ng0
2017-05-24 10:26 ` The broken 0.13 release for GuixSD Ricardo Wurmus
0 siblings, 2 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: ng0 @ 2017-05-24 7:59 UTC (permalink / raw
To: guix-devel
Going from within GuixSD 0.12 to 0.13 (multiple guix pull issued to get
all the dependencies you might lack) works.
GuixSD 0.13 medium on new installations, with no system present previously,
so far failed on all types of hardware from the last 1 - 15 years for me including
bios and uefi systems.
All get stuck on the same test.
This should not happen at all with a release.
Last I will try today is create an install target from this 0.13 resembling
machine I'm writing on right now, to see if this magically fixes the tests.
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* Re: The broken 0.13 release for GuixSD
2017-05-24 7:59 The broken 0.13 release for GuixSD ng0
@ 2017-05-24 8:41 ` ng0
2017-05-24 9:17 ` Fox
2017-05-24 10:26 ` The broken 0.13 release for GuixSD Ricardo Wurmus
1 sibling, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: ng0 @ 2017-05-24 8:41 UTC (permalink / raw
To: ng0; +Cc: guix-devel
On Wed, 24 May 2017 09:59:17 +0200 (CEST), <ng0@pragmatique.xyz> wrote:
> Going from within GuixSD 0.12 to 0.13 (multiple guix pull issued to get
> all the dependencies you might lack) works.
>
> GuixSD 0.13 medium on new installations, with no system present previously,
> so far failed on all types of hardware from the last 1 - 15 years for me including
> bios and uefi systems.
>
> All get stuck on the same test.
> This should not happen at all with a release.
>
>
> Last I will try today is create an install target from this 0.13 resembling
> machine I'm writing on right now, to see if this magically fixes the tests.
Wow, this is fckd up. You know how I made the install pass (or at least go
beyond the point of the test failing)?
guix pull; guix environment --ad-hoc guix
in environment: guix system init /mnt/etc/config.scm /mnt
what?
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* Re: The broken 0.13 release for GuixSD
2017-05-24 8:41 ` ng0
@ 2017-05-24 9:17 ` Fox
2017-05-24 9:20 ` ngillmann
2017-05-24 9:24 ` disk order Fox
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From: Fox @ 2017-05-24 9:17 UTC (permalink / raw
To: guix-devel
never mind the wrong disk order in the part about VM install (qemu)
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* Re: The broken 0.13 release for GuixSD
2017-05-24 9:17 ` Fox
@ 2017-05-24 9:20 ` ngillmann
2017-05-24 9:24 ` disk order Fox
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From: ngillmann @ 2017-05-24 9:20 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Fox; +Cc: guix-devel
On Wed, 24 May 2017 11:17:11 +0200, Fox <firefox@firemail.cc> wrote:
> never mind the wrong disk order in the part about VM install (qemu)
What's up with these random messages without context?
As you might know or not know I know my way around in GuixSD and
am not just trying to get started with it.
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* disk order
2017-05-24 9:17 ` Fox
2017-05-24 9:20 ` ngillmann
@ 2017-05-24 9:24 ` Fox
2017-05-24 9:30 ` ng0
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From: Fox @ 2017-05-24 9:24 UTC (permalink / raw
To: guix-devel
referring to
https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/guix.html#Installing-GuixSD-in-a-VM
qemu-system-x86_64 -m 1024 -smp 1 \
-net user -net nic,model=virtio -boot menu=on \
-drive file=guixsd.img \
-drive file=guixsd-usb-install-0.13.0.system
will not boot in qemu unless you change it to
qemu-system-x86_64 -m 1024 -smp 1 \
-net user -net nic,model=virtio -boot menu=on \
-drive file=guixsd-usb-install-0.13.0.system
-drive file=guixsd.img \
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* Re: disk order
2017-05-24 9:24 ` disk order Fox
@ 2017-05-24 9:30 ` ng0
2017-05-24 9:38 ` ng0
2017-05-24 9:30 ` disk order Vincent Legoll
2017-05-24 9:31 ` Fox
2 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: ng0 @ 2017-05-24 9:30 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Fox; +Cc: guix-devel
How is that even related to what I wrote.
That's what I meant with "your message is random and unrelated".
On Wed, 24 May 2017 11:24:42 +0200, Fox <firefox@firemail.cc> wrote:
> referring to
> https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/guix.html#Installing-GuixSD-in-a-VM
>
>
> qemu-system-x86_64 -m 1024 -smp 1 \
> -net user -net nic,model=virtio -boot menu=on \
> -drive file=guixsd.img \
> -drive file=guixsd-usb-install-0.13.0.system
>
>
>
>
> will not boot in qemu unless you change it to
>
> qemu-system-x86_64 -m 1024 -smp 1 \
> -net user -net nic,model=virtio -boot menu=on \
> -drive file=guixsd-usb-install-0.13.0.system
> -drive file=guixsd.img \
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* Re: disk order
2017-05-24 9:24 ` disk order Fox
2017-05-24 9:30 ` ng0
@ 2017-05-24 9:30 ` Vincent Legoll
2017-05-24 9:31 ` Fox
2 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Vincent Legoll @ 2017-05-24 9:30 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Fox; +Cc: guix-devel
Hello,
On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 11:24 AM, Fox <firefox@firemail.cc> wrote:
> referring to
> https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/guix.html#Installing-GuixSD-in-a-VM
>
> qemu-system-x86_64 -m 1024 -smp 1 \
> -net user -net nic,model=virtio -boot menu=on \
> -drive file=guixsd.img \
> -drive file=guixsd-usb-install-0.13.0.system
>
> will not boot in qemu unless you change it to
>
> qemu-system-x86_64 -m 1024 -smp 1 \
> -net user -net nic,model=virtio -boot menu=on \
> -drive file=guixsd-usb-install-0.13.0.system
> -drive file=guixsd.img \
Careful with that backslash, Eugene (*)...
--
Vincent Legoll
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* disk order
2017-05-24 9:24 ` disk order Fox
2017-05-24 9:30 ` ng0
2017-05-24 9:30 ` disk order Vincent Legoll
@ 2017-05-24 9:31 ` Fox
2 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Fox @ 2017-05-24 9:31 UTC (permalink / raw
To: guix-devel
> will not boot in qemu unless you change it to
>
> qemu-system-x86_64 -m 1024 -smp 1 \
> -net user -net nic,model=virtio -boot menu=on \
> -drive file=guixsd-usb-install-0.13.0.system \
> -drive file=guixsd.img
slash typo
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* Re: disk order
2017-05-24 9:30 ` ng0
@ 2017-05-24 9:38 ` ng0
2017-05-24 9:58 ` thread hijacking Fox
0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: ng0 @ 2017-05-24 9:38 UTC (permalink / raw
To: ng0; +Cc: guix-devel
On Wed, 24 May 2017 11:30:03 +0200 (CEST), <ng0@pragmatique.xyz> wrote:
> How is that even related to what I wrote.
> That's what I meant with "your message is random and unrelated".
>
> On Wed, 24 May 2017 11:24:42 +0200, Fox <firefox@firemail.cc> wrote:
>
> > referring to
> > https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/manual/guix.html#Installing-GuixSD-in-a-VM
> >
> >
…
This is a prime example of "people will never learn not to do things like
thread hijacking, cross-posting, etc"...
I'm open for constructive discussion on the original thread (which
for the record was "why do I have to run guix environment --ad-hoc guix"
in the SD installer on baremetal not in a VM"), I will ignore
this hijacked thread now. Please don't include me anymore in replies.
Thanks.
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* thread hijacking
2017-05-24 9:38 ` ng0
@ 2017-05-24 9:58 ` Fox
2017-05-24 10:02 ` ng0
0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Fox @ 2017-05-24 9:58 UTC (permalink / raw
To: guix-devel
dude, I did not read past your headline "broken release ..." and I am
not obliged to.
> This is a prime example of "people will never learn not to do things like
> thread hijacking, cross-posting, etc"...
>
> I'm open for constructive discussion on the original thread (which
> for the record was "why do I have to run guix environment --ad-hoc guix"
> in the SD installer on baremetal not in a VM"), I will ignore
> this hijacked thread now. Please don't include me anymore in replies.
> Thanks.
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* Re: thread hijacking
2017-05-24 9:58 ` thread hijacking Fox
@ 2017-05-24 10:02 ` ng0
0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: ng0 @ 2017-05-24 10:02 UTC (permalink / raw
To: guix-devel
On Wed, 24 May 2017 11:58:36 +0200, Fox <firefox@firemail.cc> wrote:
> dude, I did not read past your headline "broken release ..." and I am
> not obliged to.
>
>
>
> > This is a prime example of "people will never learn not to do things like
> > thread hijacking, cross-posting, etc"...
> >
> > I'm open for constructive discussion on the original thread (which
> > for the record was "why do I have to run guix environment --ad-hoc guix"
> > in the SD installer on baremetal not in a VM"), I will ignore
> > this hijacked thread now. Please don't include me anymore in replies.
> > Thanks.
https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt and common sense still applies in 2017.
Either make use of the mailinglist the correct way or don't use it at all.
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* Re: The broken 0.13 release for GuixSD
2017-05-24 7:59 The broken 0.13 release for GuixSD ng0
2017-05-24 8:41 ` ng0
@ 2017-05-24 10:26 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2017-05-24 11:27 ` ng0
1 sibling, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Ricardo Wurmus @ 2017-05-24 10:26 UTC (permalink / raw
To: ng0; +Cc: guix-devel
ng0@pragmatique.xyz writes:
> Going from within GuixSD 0.12 to 0.13 (multiple guix pull issued to get
> all the dependencies you might lack) works.
>
> GuixSD 0.13 medium on new installations, with no system present previously,
> so far failed on all types of hardware from the last 1 - 15 years for me including
> bios and uefi systems.
>
> All get stuck on the same test.
> This should not happen at all with a release.
Please, the least you could do when using words like “broken” and
“should not happen at all” is to be precise about *what* fails.
This is not constructive.
--
Ricardo
GPG: BCA6 89B6 3655 3801 C3C6 2150 197A 5888 235F ACAC
https://elephly.net
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* Re: The broken 0.13 release for GuixSD
2017-05-24 10:26 ` The broken 0.13 release for GuixSD Ricardo Wurmus
@ 2017-05-24 11:27 ` ng0
2017-05-24 11:32 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2017-05-24 11:35 ` Fox
0 siblings, 2 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: ng0 @ 2017-05-24 11:27 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Ricardo Wurmus; +Cc: guix-devel
On Wed, 24 May 2017 12:26:34 +0200, Ricardo Wurmus <rekado@elephly.net> wrote:
>
> ng0@pragmatique.xyz writes:
>
> > Going from within GuixSD 0.12 to 0.13 (multiple guix pull issued to get
> > all the dependencies you might lack) works.
> >
> > GuixSD 0.13 medium on new installations, with no system present previously,
> > so far failed on all types of hardware from the last 1 - 15 years for me including
> > bios and uefi systems.
> >
> > All get stuck on the same test.
> > This should not happen at all with a release.
>
> Please, the least you could do when using words like “broken” and
> “should not happen at all” is to be precise about *what* fails.
>
> This is not constructive.
>
> --
> Ricardo
>
> GPG: BCA6 89B6 3655 3801 C3C6 2150 197A 5888 235F ACAC
> https://elephly.net
This https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=27034 and https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=27032 this.
But I can add more duplication and describe what happened in my case:
Situation and Expectation:
uefi and bios (separate "and", not "bios and uefi") computers
No system installed.
GuixSD 0.13 installer should simply work as per instructions and the
way I know it.
Problem:
When you reach the point where you run "guix system init /path/to/config.scm /mnt"
and guix gets build, reaching its 'make check', 2 tests (as linked above) fail.
Solution:
See previous message I wrote here about guix environment --ad-hoc guix.
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* Re: The broken 0.13 release for GuixSD
2017-05-24 11:27 ` ng0
@ 2017-05-24 11:32 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2017-05-24 11:35 ` Fox
1 sibling, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Ricardo Wurmus @ 2017-05-24 11:32 UTC (permalink / raw
To: ng0; +Cc: guix-devel
>> Please, the least you could do when using words like “broken” and
>> “should not happen at all” is to be precise about *what* fails.
[…]
> This https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=27034 and
> https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=27032 this.
Then it’s better to add additional information to these bug reports
instead of diluting the discussion by starting a new thread on
guix-devel.
--
Ricardo
GPG: BCA6 89B6 3655 3801 C3C6 2150 197A 5888 235F ACAC
https://elephly.net
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* 0.13 release for GuixSD
2017-05-24 11:27 ` ng0
2017-05-24 11:32 ` Ricardo Wurmus
@ 2017-05-24 11:35 ` Fox
2017-05-24 11:59 ` Ludovic Courtès
1 sibling, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Fox @ 2017-05-24 11:35 UTC (permalink / raw
To: guix-devel
as I typed in IRC, I encountered some test fail too earlier. Sorry I
forgot how I got over it, maybe it was that install where I missed to
submit one BASH LINE from the install manual (might have been fixed by
now anyway).
Just to say that test failures do occur.
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* Re: 0.13 release for GuixSD
2017-05-24 11:35 ` Fox
@ 2017-05-24 11:59 ` Ludovic Courtès
0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Ludovic Courtès @ 2017-05-24 11:59 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Fox; +Cc: guix-devel
Fox <firefox@firemail.cc> skribis:
> as I typed in IRC, I encountered some test fail too earlier. Sorry I
> forgot how I got over it, maybe it was that install where I missed to
> submit one BASH LINE from the install manual (might have been fixed by
> now anyway).
> Just to say that test failures do occur.
This is being worked on, please see <https://bugs.gnu.org/27032>. You
can contribute to the discussion there by emailing
27032@debbugs.gnu.org.
Thanks in advance!
Ludo’.
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