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FTR, this is indeed the case. thanks for the clarification! -- =E2=80=A2 attila lendvai =E2=80=A2 PGP: 963F 5D5F 45C7 DFCD 0A39 -- Toleration is not about believing that stupid people are intelligent, it's = about letting stupid people be victims of their own stupidity rather than b= eing victims of yours.