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Roesch" Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2023 11:37:09 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A Forum for Guix Users To: Distopico Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000004bc7840600fb2ca8" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::62a; envelope-from=etienne.roesch@gmail.com; helo=mail-ej1-x62a.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 24 Jul 2023 01:27:51 -0400 X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Scanner: mx2.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -6.96 X-Spam-Score: -6.96 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: A180545757 X-TUID: XZenjZHs83RR --0000000000004bc7840600fb2ca8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, these are good points: the technicality required for dev work may actually deter newcomers, and therefore perhaps a higher-level online forum for beginners to ask questions could lower the barrier to entry. I am revising my vote in favour of the forum :) Etienne On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 4:56=E2=80=AFPM Distopico wr= ote: > > I have been using and participating in other GNU distributions such as > Trisquel and Parabola, but mostly as beholder/viewer. > > After more than 10 year the forum of Trisquel still active, not like 8 > years ago before social media, but is active, and more important is used > mostly for new user, and non-technical user, also the Trisquel forum is > well indexed and when you try to find something related with Trisquel > the forums is the solutions for those issues usuall.y > > Trisquel also have mailing list but used mostly for dev/contributor and > the Irc for also for dev/contributors or more advanced users. > > Parabola as well have a forum/Irc/mailing, but in this case the forum is > not quite active, maybe because the focus of parabola is more advanced > users, also as Parabola user as well I also check Archlinux > documentation to try to fix my issues or Archlinux forums because are > more complete. > > So I don't think a forum crate fragmentation, and the Forum is an entry > place for beginners and unlike Parabola that has the documentation of > Arch, Guix need to have your own solutions and your own documentation > and a forum is a good place to build that. > > So said that: > - Forum: A good place for beginner an non-technical user (I guess all > Guix user require some technical knowledge), also a good place for > create history and user documentation/solutions. > > - Irc: For quick question, developer and contributor discussions and > more advanced users (bridge to Matrix would be good). > > - Mailing List: For contributors, developers, and more long-terms > questions, as well more advanced users. > > on the other hand I think that the mailing lists create a more conducive > environment for debate than the forum itself, but again, for new user a > Forum is a better place or to find quick solutions which on Irc are hard > to find. > > --0000000000004bc7840600fb2ca8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes, these are good points: the technicality required for = dev work may actually deter newcomers, and therefore perhaps a higher-level= online forum for beginners to ask questions could lower the barrier to ent= ry. I am revising my vote in favour of the forum :)

Etie= nne

On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 4:56=E2=80=AFPM Distopico <distopico@riseup.net> wrote:

I have been using and participating in other GNU distributions such as
Trisquel and Parabola, but mostly as beholder/viewer.

After more than 10 year the forum of Trisquel still active, not like 8
years ago before social media, but is active, and more important is used mostly for new user, and non-technical user, also the Trisquel forum is
well indexed and when you try to find something related with Trisquel
the forums is the solutions for those issues usuall.y

Trisquel also have mailing list but used mostly for dev/contributor and
the Irc for also for dev/contributors or more advanced users.

Parabola as well have a forum/Irc/mailing, but in this case the forum is not quite active, maybe because the focus of parabola is more advanced
users, also as Parabola user as well I also check Archlinux
documentation to try to fix my issues or Archlinux forums because are
more complete.

So I don't think a forum crate fragmentation, and the Forum is an entry=
place for beginners and unlike Parabola that has the documentation of
Arch, Guix need to have your own solutions and your own documentation
and a forum is a good place to build that.

So said that:
- Forum: A good place for beginner an non-technical user (I guess all
Guix user require some technical knowledge), also a good place for
create history and user documentation/solutions.

- Irc: For quick question, developer and contributor discussions and
=C2=A0 more advanced users (bridge to Matrix would be good).

- Mailing List: For contributors, developers, and more long-terms
=C2=A0 questions, as well more advanced users.

on the other hand I think that the mailing lists create a more conducive environment for debate than the forum itself, but again, for new user a
Forum is a better place or to find quick solutions which on Irc are hard to find.

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