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From: Sharlatan Hellseher <sharlatanus@gmail.com>
To: Vinicius Monego <monego@posteo.net>
Cc: Ada Stevenson <adanskana@gmail.com>,
	Guix Devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>,
	andreas@enge.fr, bavier@posteo.net
Subject: Re: SageMath packaging work
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2024 16:36:51 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAO+9K5rvSEn5yDk5tz0dhUuOyH9xgYgOVZzk8MuQ-8BZwDh=zg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0e7765a61a6a30131379a4929722b809390cb600.camel@posteo.net>

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Hi,

70924 is merged

Figuring out which patches from V3 56729 may be easy pass forward

Thanks,
Oleg

On Wed, 10 Jul 2024, 00:55 Vinicius Monego, <monego@posteo.net> wrote:

> Hi Ada,
>
> Em ter, 2024-07-09 às 07:27 +0000, Ada Stevenson escreveu:
> > Hi Vinicus,
> >
> > On 01/06/2024 6:43 am, Vinicius Monego wrote:
> > > Em qua, 2024-05-22 às 09:19 +0000, Ada Stevenson escreveu:
> > > > Hi Guix, science team!
> > > >
> > > > I was reaching for SageMath today and couldn't find it in the
> > > > package
> > > > repository. I notice there's a sagemath.scm file, but no actual
> > > > SageMath
> > > > package proper. Is there any work being done on packaging it at
> > > > the
> > > > moment? Are there any particular blockers preventing its
> > > > packaging
> > > > (excessive dependencies, difficult build etc.)?
> > > >
> > > > Having SageMath in Guix would be really handy for me, so I'm
> > > > happy to
> > > > give packaging it a go if the only reason is that there's not
> > > > enough
> > > > interest (I will just have to wait until after exams, so in about
> > > > 3-4
> > > > weeks).
> > > >
> > > > Hope you are all doing well!
> > > >
> > > > Warmly,
> > > > Ada
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hi Ada,
> > >
> > > SageMath has a lot of dependencies which you can see on
> > > https://doc.sagemath.org/html/en/reference/spkg/
> > >
> > > These are my current notes (I'm not sure how to organize them
> > > online):
> >
> > Thank you! This is a great resource. Sorry for not responding
> > earlier, I
> > was in the midst of exams. I just want to check if this is still up
> > to
> > date, as far as you know. I want to start helping out with this
> > effort.
> >
>
> Yes, it is up to date.
>
> I am still waiting for the python-team branch to be merged because it
> also introduces dependencies for jupyterlab, which I am interested in
> packaging. Issue 70924 could be merged already, if anyone wants to
> review, and then I merge it in the weekend.
>
> > >
> > > Standard packages:
> > >
> > > + Available in the python-team branch (not yet merged):
> > >
> > > - fqdn (python-team)
> > > - isoduration (python-team)
> > > - jupyter-events (python-team)
> > > - jupyter-server-terminals (python-team)
> > > - notebook-shim (python-team)
> > > - overrides (python-team)
> > > - referencing (python-team)
> > > - rfc3986-validator (python-team)
> > > - uri-template (python-team)
> > >
> > > + Series 1 (submitted as issue 70924):
> > >
> > > - async-lru (review)
> > > - calver (review)
> > > - memory-allocator (review)
> > > - pplpy (review)
> > > - primecount (review)
> > > - primecountpy (review)
> > > - pyproject-api (review)
> > > - types-python-dateutils (review)
> > >
> > > + Series 2 (currently working on, not yet submitted):
> >
> > How are you going with this series? Is there anything I can help
> > with?
> >
>
> I think the best approach right now is to update the packages from
> issue 56729. Some of these have been submitted there but are out of
> date, and some others I updated in 70924. I'll help reviewing your
> submission. Also, I didn't go any further on the list since my last
> message.
>
> > >
> > > - gfan (NEXT)
> > > - gnumake-tokenpool (v0.0.7+ needs Python 3.11+)
> > > - jupyter-lsp (needs updated jupyter-core)
> > > - palp http://hep.itp.tuwien.ac.at/~kreuzer/CY/CYpalp.html (NEXT)
> > > - pytz-deprecation-shim (OK but temporary usage only)
> > > - sympow
> > > - tachyon: http://jedi.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/raytracer/files/
> > >
> > > + Remaining standard packages:
> > >
> >
> > I'll give these a go.
> >
>
> Sounds good.
>
> > > - combinatorial-designs
> > > - comm
> > > - conway-polynomials
> > > - elliptic-curves
> > > - graphs
> > > - jmol
> > > - jsonschema-specifications
> > > - jupyter-jsmol
> > > - jupyterlab
> > > - jupyterlab-mathjax2
> > > - pari-galdata
> > > - pari-seadata-small
> > > - polytopes-db
> > > - pplpy-doc
> > > - sage-conf
> > > - sage-docbuild
> > > - sage-setup
> > > - sagenb-export
> > > - sagetex
> > > - sphinx-inline-tabs
> > > - threejs
> > >
> > > Optional packages:
> >
> > Wow, that is a lot!
> > >
> > > - admcycles
> > > - benzene
> > > - buckygen
> > > - coxeter3
> > > - csdp
> > > - cunningham-tables
> > > - cylp
> > > - d3js
> > > - database-cremona-ellcurve
> > > - database-cubic-hecke
> > > - database-jones-numfield
> > > - database-knotinfo
> > > - database-kohel
> > > - database-mutation-class
> > > - database-stein-watkins
> > > - database-stein-watkins-mini
> > > - database-symbolic-data
> > > - dsdp
> > > - e-antic
> > > - frobby
> > > - gap-jupyter
> > > - gap-packages
> > > - github-cli
> > > - glucose [looks easy]
> > > - jupymake
> > > - kenzo
> > > - latte-int
> > > - libsemigroups [looks easy]
> > > - lidia
> > > - mathics
> > > - mathics-scanner
> > > - matroid-database
> > > - mcqd
> > > - meataxe
> > > - msolve
> > > - nibabel [looks easy]
> > > - normaliz [looks easy]
> > > - notedown
> > > - onetbb
> > > - ore-algebra
> > > - p-group-cohomology
> > > - pandoc-attributes
> > > - papilo
> > > - pari-elldata
> > > - pari-galpol
> > > - pari-nftables
> > > - pari-seadata
> > > - perl-cpan-polymake-prereq
> > > - perl-mongodb
> > > - phitigra
> > > - plantri [looks easy]
> > > - polymake [looks easy]
> > > - polytopes-db-4d
> > > - pycryptosat [looks easy]
> > > - pynormaliz [looks easy]
> > > - pyppeteer
> > > - pyscipopt
> > > - pysingular
> > > - pyx [looks easy]
> > > - qepcad
> > > - rst2ipynb
> > > - rubiks
> > > - saclib
> > > - sage-flatsurf
> > > - sage-numerical-backends-coin
> > > - sage-numerical-backends-cplex
> > > - sage-numerical-backends-gurobi
> > > - sage-sws2rst
> > > - scip
> > > - scip-sdp
> > > - singular-jupyter
> > > - sirocco
> > > - slabbe
> > > - snappy
> > > - soplex
> > > - tides
> > > - topcom
> > >
> > > As you can see, it's a lot of packages and dependencies, and these
> > > are
> > > only the missing ones. Some of them are outdated, abandoned, or too
> > > recent. Some of the already packaged dependencies may be too old or
> > > need patches. We need at least the standard packages. Finally, we
> > > have
> > > to glue them all in the sagemath package. So it's a lot of work and
> > > nontrivial.
> > >
> > > If you'd like to help, you can choose to package one of those
> > > "looks
> > > easy" (but optional) packages, if you're new to Guix. Or try to
> > > help
> > > with the more complex, yet more important, standard packages. You
> > > can
> > > see the source link to every dependency in that sagemath packages
> > > link.
> > > Issue 56729 is a good starting point.
> >
> > Thanks! I'll start with issue 56729, and hopefully bring it up to
> > speed.
> >
>
> Have fun :)
>
> > >
> > > The blockers are all of those you listed: excessive dependencies,
> > > difficult building and lack of interest.
> > >
> > > Vinicius
> >
> > Warmly,
> > Ada
>
> Vinicius
>

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      reply	other threads:[~2024-11-01 16:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-22  9:19 SageMath packaging work Ada Stevenson
2024-05-22 14:50 ` Sharlatan Hellseher
2024-05-22 15:10   ` Andreas Enge
2024-06-01  6:43 ` Vinicius Monego
2024-07-09  7:27   ` Ada Stevenson
2024-07-09 23:54     ` Vinicius Monego
2024-11-01 16:36       ` Sharlatan Hellseher [this message]

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