From: "alírio eyng" <alirioeyng@gmail.com>
To: gnu-linux-libre@nongnu.org
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [GNU-linux-libre] MAME emulator is giving incentive to use non-free software
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 00:31:33 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALkz57GMzCatXMLsWnoz7x7a2KUaqGo01PQFgGY8EYC0BMJqpA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALkz57FiX62B1cHw+0gnUKyWvt1nSKzQvDPHnkuL8pAxP63xCA@mail.gmail.com>
Luke:
>https://wiki.parabola.nu/Emulator_licensing_issues
>
>This may prove useful in the event of further research/discussion.
this was mentioned, and it's missing crucial information.
let's add ndiswrapper to it.
it would be classified as "free + free use", but it is still rejected;
because [0] classifies it as "free + useless free use" or "useless in freedom".
proposed definition of "usefulness" for emulators:
free software _needs_ it as a runtime dependency; or
development tool acting as hardware replacement.
ndiswrapper fails both, so it's useless in freedom.
qemu emulates current hardware, so it succeeds the second.
wine is needed for notepad++[1], so it succeeds the first.
wine fails the second, so we could provide it just as a dependency not
directly installable.
hatari (atari st) and ppsspp (psp) fail the second.
psp was discontinued in december 2014[2], so it is possible to argue
it is not obsolete; but we probably should not support it for
development anyway[3]
these information and others already there is not really about an
emulator, but about the architecture/board ("driver" in mame[4]); we
could have separate tables describing architectures/boards and
emulators.
mame is so flexible [4] it's really tricky.
a current main processor architecture can have all boards failing the
above criteria, directly.
how much main processor emulation needs board emulation?
if a board is needed and there are no other similar
emulators/disassemblers/debuggers for that architecture with boards
succeeding the criteria, the most recently discontinued board should
get an exception.
answering [5], mac-on-linux was removed from debian/trisquel by being
unmaintained [6].
[0] and [6] should be refactored or merged.
[0]https://libreplanet.org/wiki/List_of_software_that_does_not_respect_the_Free_System_Distribution_Guidelines
[1]needs checking
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Windows-only_free_software
[2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Portable
[3]boycottsony.org
[4]18:34
https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/hardware-reverse-engineering-insights-from-the-mame/
[5]http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/gnu-linux-libre/2016-04/msg00122.html
[6]https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/software-does-not-respect-free-system-distribution-guidelines
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-04-27 0:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-03-29 16:31 MAME emulator is giving incentive to use non-free software alírio eyng
2016-03-30 22:30 ` Isaac David
2016-04-02 3:17 ` Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
2016-03-31 22:50 ` alírio eyng
2016-04-01 6:23 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2016-04-01 12:15 ` alírio eyng
2016-04-01 20:03 ` alírio eyng
2016-04-02 2:19 ` Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
2016-04-02 8:48 ` [GNU-linux-libre] " alírio eyng
2016-04-03 14:20 ` alírio eyng
2016-04-03 18:36 ` alírio eyng
2016-04-03 19:39 ` Felipe Sanches
2016-04-03 21:02 ` alírio eyng
2016-04-03 21:22 ` Felipe Sanches
2016-04-04 3:26 ` alírio eyng
2016-04-04 11:19 ` Felipe Sanches
2016-04-04 22:23 ` alírio eyng
2016-04-04 22:47 ` [GNU-linux-libre] " Felipe Sanches
2016-04-04 22:58 ` Felipe Sanches
2016-04-04 22:59 ` Felipe Sanches
2016-04-05 2:29 ` alírio eyng
2016-04-09 9:00 ` Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
2016-04-09 19:43 ` alírio eyng
2016-04-27 0:31 ` alírio eyng [this message]
2016-04-05 15:59 ` Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
2016-04-06 11:02 ` alírio eyng
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