From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: =?UTF-8?B?YWzDrXJpbyBleW5n?= Subject: Re: MAME emulator is giving incentive to use non-free software Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 21:02:28 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20160402041955.484a1cb1@top-laptop> Reply-To: Workgroup for fully free GNU/Linux distributions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: gnu-linux-libre-bounces+gldg-gnu-linux-libre=m.gmane.org@nongnu.org Sender: gnu-linux-libre-bounces+gldg-gnu-linux-libre=m.gmane.org@nongnu.org Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, gnu-linux-libre@nongnu.org List-Id: guix-devel.gnu.org Felipe Sanches: >On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 3:36 PM, al=C3=ADrio eyng wrote: >> Tobias Platen: >>> Emulators can be useful for reverse engineering ... >> emulators are the _result_ of reverse engineering, not tools to do it. ... >I completely disagree! >I have been actively using MAME to perform reverse engineering of >non-free firmware for a bit more than a couple years. this is missing the point. you are using mame to _run_ non-free firmware and performing reverse engineering on a running non-free firmware. but if we support running non-free software (or firmware) on an emulator there's no point in not supporting non-free software outside it. e.g. skype because i can say its useful to run skype to reverse engineer it, and this is true. free distros choose the compromise of making this a little harder by not supporting nonfree software so people are not mislead in using it. but it is still reasonably easy to opt-out of the free distro whitelist and use nonfree software if wanted.