From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: =?UTF-8?B?YWzDrXJpbyBleW5n?= Subject: Re: [GNU-linux-libre] MAME emulator is giving incentive to use non-free software Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2016 08:48:58 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20160402041955.484a1cb1@top-laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50269) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1amHEr-0003oM-H2 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2016 04:49:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1amHEq-0000Eg-9O for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2016 04:49:01 -0400 Received: from mail-lb0-x236.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c04::236]:33574) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1amHEq-0000Dw-0E for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Apr 2016 04:49:00 -0400 Received: by mail-lb0-x236.google.com with SMTP id u8so92162950lbk.0 for ; Sat, 02 Apr 2016 01:48:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20160402041955.484a1cb1@top-laptop> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: GNUtoo@no-log.org Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, gnu-linux-libre@nongnu.org On 4/2/16, Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli wrote: > Why not just requiring some documentation along the emulator that > documents at least one fully free software that can run on it. this is missing some complexity: we don't want something better done natively (we exclude ndiswrapper)[1] but we still want to allow introducing free software on nonfree platforms[2] i think packaging is better than documenting, shouldn't be much more effort but this doesn't address the problem of discernment example: i can go to [3] and see there are four games, i know they are free because they are inside a free distro frontier if users need to exit the free distro frontier, they probably will find nonfree and free games and don't see much difference the ideal would be to have a comprehensive set of games packaged inside the free distro frontier hiding the emulator executable/package would warn when they are exiting the free distro frontier and poke them to add free games to the distro (suggesting to developers or sending patches) alternatively, forking all emulators and creating a free community around them would also provide a freedom frontier [1]https://libreplanet.org/wiki/List_of_software_that_does_not_respect_the_Free_System_Distribution_Guidelines [2]https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2014-11/msg00333.html [3]http://packages.trisquel.info/belenos-updates/scummvm