Re: Manual (was: fully functional desktop installation)

[Amirouche Boubekki <amirouche.boubekki@gmail.com>]

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Does the manual want to avoid the fact that minimal knowledge of Scheme is
required maybe we should add a small intro to guile or guix manual
something maybe like my book called "a guile mind book"

Le 15 janv. 2018 3:20 PM, "ng0" <ng0@n0.is> a écrit :

> Ludovic Courtès transcribed 1.7K bytes:
> > Hi Quiliro!
> >
> > Quiliro <quiliro@riseup.net> skribis:
> >
> > > On Mon, 02 Jan 2017 22:11:01 +0100
> > > ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > >> The desktop example contains all of GNOME, when choosing GNOME, which
> > >> provides an email client, Web browser, and lots of other things.
> > >
> > > I don't find the email client.
> > > The web browser will not reproduce videos.
> >
> > This is a bug that needs to be treated separately.  Clearly Nautilus
> > should be able to play videos.
>
> I can confirm this for some file, I just had the opinion Nautilus wasn't
> very capable and didn't report it when I first noticed it.
>
> > > I have no idea how to chat in Gnome. (Of course I will investigate.)
> >
> > There’s Pidgin, but maybe it’s not really part of GNOME.
> >
> > > What you say makes sense. But what users that cannot learn to install
> > > need to work on their own matters is very important in order for them
> to
> > > be able to advocate the free system. Perhaps we do not want to promote
> > > the use of Flash or Microsoft Office formats. These issues are
> > > critical. But they are not against the FSDGs. And the user must notice
> > > we are able to offer those capabilities. We must always insist in
> > > suggesting to use the libre alternatives. In this case, we should not
> > > avoid including the ability to read those formats.
> >
> > I agree, but again, I think GNOME provides everything for these tasks.
> > Also, at this point, the target audience of GuixSD is not “users that
> > cannot learn to install”—if someone managed to install GuixSD, surely
> > they’ll find out how to install LibreOffice.
>
> In my opinion we could extend examples in the Manual.
> We already expect people to read the Manual, even if it's hard to
> digest for newcomers in some passages (different problem). To add
> an 'from 0 to full Desktop' walk through or just extension of the existing
> material with references to the appropriate sections would be good.
>
> Even if we don't expect people who are not willing to play around, break
> parts
> and play around with the system, we need clear examples. Even people who
> are
> experienced want some kind of help instead of high expertise expectation.
>
> People keep asking me obvious question that should be in the manual.
> Sometimes things which could be snippets in an example chapter.
> For example (home-directory (string-append "/home/" name)). Super obvious,
> I know.
>
> > > I have also had problems with Mimetypes. Many files will not open
> > > because the Gnome will not identify which program is appropriate.
> >
> > Sounds like a bug.  Could you report all the details to
> > bug-guix@gnu.org: how to reproduce, what you expected, and what you got?
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> > Ludo’.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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