From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: David Craven Subject: Re: Leaving the guix project Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 00:47:58 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87o9y29svy.fsf@igalia.com> <87ino893j3.fsf@elephly.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49272) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cesFv-0004B3-7q for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 18:48:04 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cesFs-00045h-5z for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 18:48:03 -0500 Received: from mail-qk0-x235.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c09::235]:35988) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cesFs-00045L-0P for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 18:48:00 -0500 Received: by mail-qk0-x235.google.com with SMTP id 11so57340413qkl.3 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2017 15:47:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87ino893j3.fsf@elephly.net> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Ricardo Wurmus Cc: guix-devel > unless they force or persuade other people to use non-free software as well I hope this isn't a reference to the raspberry pi firmware. If you are talking about this firmware [0], it boots Linux since the 3rd of Jan 2017. I do not follow the developments closely, but I hardly think that this is something that can be recommended to a "non technical user", but maybe you have a different opinion. In any case if I recommend non-free firmware over a free counter part it is most likely because I'm not aware that there is a usable alternative. In this particular case I have not tried the firmware itself, and in any case - bringing up a device with the existing stable firmware is a prerequisite for further experimentation. But you are right, I did not ask the user if he was ok with using the raspberry pi exclusively over a uart cable without usb, ethernet or video. [0] https://github.com/christinaa/rpi-open-firmware/commit/34db573a45a03c9ba1bd11788a6cbaf5507faa53