From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: David Craven Subject: Re: Leaving the guix project Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 15:14:36 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87o9y29svy.fsf@igalia.com> <87y3x2m3so.fsf@gmail.com> <878tp1ck6e.wl-tcech@suse.com> <20170220132551.GA19266@jocasta.intra> <87zihgjop0.fsf@gnu.org> <87r32qg73b.fsf@gnu.org> <20170222135841.GA2489@jocasta.intra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11375426df951105491f1dcf Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36223) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cgXgo-0007su-Ko for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2017 09:14:43 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cgXgk-0002Nh-Fu for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2017 09:14:42 -0500 Received: from mail-qt0-x22a.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::22a]:35772) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cgXgk-0002NQ-AY for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2017 09:14:38 -0500 Received: by mail-qt0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id x35so3241645qtc.2 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2017 06:14:38 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: John Darrington Cc: guix-devel , Alex Kost , Tomas Cech --001a11375426df951105491f1dcf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Also note how that line was conviniently drawn just barely outside of what the Linux project was doing at the time, I guess most likely so that he could still find developers to build his Hurd by saying "Linux does not respect your freedoms" On Feb 22, 2017 15:06, "David Craven" wrote: > Yeah exactly, you only force people to buy your crappy hardware and while > you care so much about freedom, freedom of speech and information you do > not give a shit about. You prefer to lie to unknowing users, telling them > how firmware in ROM is so much better while I know you're full of shit and > all of this because of an arbitrary line RMS drew. > > On Feb 22, 2017 14:58, "John Darrington" > wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 02:54:32PM +0100, David Craven wrote: > Exactly why I'm leaving. You prefer to spread and force your religion > on to > people, > > No we don't. > > One of the defining principles of free software is that nobody is forced > into > anything. And we never do it. In fact that forcing people into things is > exactly what we OPPOSE. > > -- > Avoid eavesdropping. Send strong encrypted email. > PGP Public key ID: 1024D/2DE827B3 > fingerprint = 8797 A26D 0854 2EAB 0285 A290 8A67 719C 2DE8 27B3 > See http://sks-keyservers.net or any PGP keyserver for public key. > > > --001a11375426df951105491f1dcf Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Also note how that line was conviniently drawn just barel= y outside of what the Linux project was doing at the time, I guess most lik= ely so that he could still find developers to build his Hurd by saying &quo= t;Linux does not respect your freedoms"=C2=A0

On Feb 22, 2017 15:06, "David C= raven" <david@craven.ch> = wrote:
Yeah exactly, you only force people to buy your crappy hardware a= nd while you care so much about freedom, freedom of speech and information = you do not give a shit about. You prefer to lie to unknowing users, telling= them how firmware in ROM is so much better while I know you're full of= shit and all of this because of an arbitrary line RMS drew.

On Feb 22, 2017 14:58, &quo= t;John Darrington" <john@darrington.wattle.id.au> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 02:54:32PM +0100, = David Craven wrote:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Exactly why I'm leaving. You prefer to spread and f= orce your religion on to
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0people,

No we don't.

One of the defining principles of free software is that nobody is forced in= to
anything.=C2=A0 And we never do it.=C2=A0 =C2=A0In fact that forcing people= into things is
exactly what we OPPOSE.

--
Avoid eavesdropping.=C2=A0 Send strong encrypted email.
PGP Public key ID: 1024D/2DE827B3
fingerprint =3D 8797 A26D 0854 2EAB 0285=C2=A0 A290 8A67 719C 2DE8 27B3
See http://sks-keyservers.net or any PGP keyserver for public key.


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