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From: Blake Shaw <blake@sweatshoppe.org>
To: dom@dominicm.dev
Cc: John Kehayias <john.kehayias@protonmail.com>,
	Guix Devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [WIP Patch] Adding an FHS container to guix shell
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2022 23:27:32 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKjmbcBoN+brhYyPnKo9cWpTJNpmugAfR85asjvtDgybAOLxAw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87tu7llpj0.fsf@dominicm.dev>

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hi John!

I think it sounds like a swell addition to Guix, something that I would
definitely reach for time to time.

good stuff.

ez,
b

On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 2:26 AM Dominic Martinez <dom@dominicm.dev> wrote:

>
> John Kehayias <john.kehayias@protonmail.com> writes:
>
> > First, I wanted to ask how people feel about such a feature. Obviously,
> one use
> > is to run pre-built binaries (isolated!), but this is also handy for
> setting up
> > development environments when not able (or wanting) to with Guix
> packages only.
> > For example, using the rustup [0] scripts, pretty much anything JS, or
> just
> > following typical Readme instructions to try out something new before
> packaging.
> > I won't debate the details here other than to say this topic comes up
> with Guix
> > and I think it is yet another useful tool for guix shell and containers.
>
> Absolutely! I usually have to resort to Docker containers when building
> something that doesn't support GuixSD, so being able to work with them
> through Guix would be amazing.
>
> > What about other uses for this container, like providing an isolated
> environment
> > to build and run software we can't do fully with bootstrap and sources
> (like
> > JS)? Could this become some stop-gap to allow people to work with these
> > ecosystems in a more controlled way within Guix? Or an alternative build
> > environment? Not entirely sure what this could mean, just thinking out
> loud.
>
> I think an interesting idea would be to allow packages to transparently
> run in the FHS container (i.e. a shim that turns 'x' into 'guix shell
> --fhs-container x -- x'). That way software incompatible with GuixSD in
> a way too difficult to patch could be still be packaged and used
> transparently, albeit with a significant performance cost.
>
> Even if packages in Guix proper don't use it, it could be useful for
> third-party channels or end-users to whip up packages.
>
> Thanks so much for this; I've been thinking about getting around to this
> feature for quite a while.
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-13 23:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-12 15:59 [WIP Patch] Adding an FHS container to guix shell John Kehayias
2022-07-12 17:34 ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-07-15 15:41   ` John Kehayias
2022-07-13  2:11 ` Dominic Martinez
2022-07-13 23:27   ` Blake Shaw [this message]
2022-07-15 15:44   ` John Kehayias
2022-07-14 10:01 ` zimoun
2022-07-15 15:46   ` John Kehayias
2022-07-14 14:59 ` Liliana Marie Prikler
2022-07-15 16:00   ` John Kehayias
2022-07-15 13:43 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-07-15 16:35   ` John Kehayias
2022-07-15 13:45 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-07-18 11:40 ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-07-20 21:22   ` John Kehayias
2022-07-20 23:49     ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-21  3:15       ` John Kehayias
2022-07-21  0:20 ` debbugs irritation Was: " Csepp
2022-07-21  4:18   ` John Kehayias
2022-07-21 16:45   ` zimoun
2022-07-21 20:22     ` Csepp
2022-08-18 10:55       ` zimoun
2022-08-19 22:13         ` jbranso
2022-07-21  4:25 ` John Kehayias

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