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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail (rsa verify failed) header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=vU91ThRf; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 1.09 X-TUID: 8H24SQtEejZw --000000000000b98c7e05a5de64c3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No doubt there is lots about my life and the things I do that you think I should change ;) No offense taken. Moving on. On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 2:59 AM Josh Marshall < joshua.r.marshall.1991@gmail.com> wrote: > Yeah, I noticed this, too but wasn't going to say anything. That footer > is outlandish. I think you ought to nix the whole thing. > > On Sun, May 17, 2020, 09:29 Dmitry Alexandrov wrote: > >> My apologies to Guix devs for offtopic (I hope adding an appropriate tag >> to subject is enough not to disturb those who do not want to be disturbe= d), >> but I could not pass this by: >> >> Trevor Lee wrote: >> > 1. *The content of this email is confidential and intended for the >> recipient specified in message only. >> >> Nope, you=CA=BCve sent it to a public mailing list. ;-) >> >> And even if put this mistake aside: >> >> > It is strictly forbidden to share any part of this message with any >> third party, without a written consent of the sender. >> >> By whom? Is there anyone, who is capable of =E2=80=98strictly forbiddin= g=E2=80=99 me (or >> anyone else) to do anything? I would suggest you to revise the wording. >> >> > If you received this message by mistake, please reply to this >> message and follow with its deletion, so that we can ensure such a mista= ke >> does not occur in the future.* >> >> While this is undoubtedly formulated better, it contradicts with the >> normal workflow of most people: they could either reply to the letter >> (often citing the enough context) and store it in their archive forever >> along with their reply, or trash it. >> >> > 2. *This message has been sent as a part of discussion between >> Begley Brothers Inc. and the addressee whose name is specified above. >> Should you receive this message by mistake, we would be most grateful if >> you informed us that the message has been sent to you. In this case, we >> also ask that you delete this message from your mailbox, and do not forw= ard >> it or any part of it to anyone else. Thank you for your cooperation and >> understanding.* >> >> Are not you repeating yourself? >> >> > 3. *Begley Brothers Inc. puts the security of the client at a high >> priority. Therefore, we have put efforts into ensuring that the message = is >> error and virus-free. Unfortunately, full security of the email cannot b= e >> ensured as, despite our efforts, the data included in emails could be >> infected, intercepted, or corrupted. >> >> Sure, perfect secrecy / security cannot be achieved. But, for instance, >> signing and encrypting your mail sufficiently lower the chances that it >> would be tampered with and read by adversary third party respectively. >> >> Unfortunately, you neither sign your mail, nor I can find your key to >> send you an encrypted one: it is not published neither at open keyserver >> network (for now represented by keyserver.ubuntu.com), neither at >> proprietary keys.openpgp.org. And gmail.com, of course, does not >> provide webkey-directory, let aside DANE. >> >> > Therefore, the recipient should check the email for threats with >> proper software, as the sender does not accept liability for any damage >> inflicted by viewing the content of this email.* >> >> It seems, that you have really decided to scare all your clients off. :-= ) >> > --=20 Kind Regards Begley Brothers Inc. 1. *The content of this email is confidential and intended for the recipient specified in message only. It is strictly forbidden to share a= ny part of this message with any third party, without a written consent of = the sender. If you received this message by mistake, please reply to this message and follow with its deletion, so that we can ensure such a mista= ke does not occur in the future.* 2. *This message has been sent as a part of discussion between Begley Brothers Inc. and the addressee whose name is specified above. Should yo= u receive this message by mistake, we would be most grateful if you inform= ed us that the message has been sent to you. In this case, we also ask that you delete this message from your mailbox, and do not forward it or any part of it to anyone else. Thank you for your cooperation and understanding.* 3. *Begley Brothers Inc. puts the security of the client at a high priority. Therefore, we have put efforts into ensuring that the message = is error and virus-free. Unfortunately, full security of the email cannot b= e ensured as, despite our efforts, the data included in emails could be infected, intercepted, or corrupted. Therefore, the recipient should che= ck the email for threats with proper software, as the sender does not accep= t liability for any damage inflicted by viewing the content of this email.= * 4. *The views and opinions included in this email belong to their author and do not necessarily mirror the views and opinions of the company. Our employees are obliged not to make any defamatory clauses, infringe, or authorize infringement of any legal right. Therefore, the company will n= ot take any liability for such statements included in emails. In case of an= y damages or other liabilities arising, employees are fully responsible fo= r the content of their emails.* --000000000000b98c7e05a5de64c3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
No doubt there is lots about my life= and the things I do that you think I should change ;)
No offense= taken.
Moving on.

On Mon, May 18, 2020= at 2:59 AM Josh Marshall <joshua.r.marshall.1991@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, I noticed th= is, too but wasn't going to say anything.=C2=A0 That footer is outlandi= sh.=C2=A0 I think you ought to nix the whole thing.

On Sun, May 17, 2020, 09= :29 Dmitry Alexandrov <dag@gnui.org> wrote:
My apologies to Guix devs for offtopic (I hope adding an appro= priate tag to subject is enough not to disturb those who do not want to be = disturbed), but I could not pass this by:

Trevor Lee <begleybrothers@gmail.com> wrote:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 1. *The content of this email is confidential and intende= d for the recipient specified in message only.

Nope, you=CA=BCve sent it to a public mailing list. ;-)

And even if put this mistake aside:

>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 It is strictly forbidden to share any part of this messag= e with any third party, without a written consent of the sender.

By whom?=C2=A0 Is there anyone, who is capable of =E2=80=98strictly forbidd= ing=E2=80=99 me (or anyone else) to do anything?=C2=A0 I would suggest you = to revise the wording.

>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 If you received this message by mistake, please reply to = this message and follow with its deletion, so that we can ensure such a mis= take does not occur in the future.*

While this is undoubtedly formulated better, it contradicts with the normal= workflow of most people: they could either reply to the letter (often citi= ng the enough context) and store it in their archive forever along with the= ir reply, or trash it.

>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 2. *This message has been sent as a part of discussion be= tween Begley Brothers Inc. and the addressee whose name is specified above.= Should you receive this message by mistake, we would be most grateful if y= ou informed us that the message has been sent to you. In this case, we also= ask that you delete this message from your mailbox, and do not forward it = or any part of it to anyone else. Thank you for your cooperation and unders= tanding.*

Are not you repeating yourself?

>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 3. *Begley Brothers Inc. puts the security of the client = at a high priority. Therefore, we have put efforts into ensuring that the m= essage is error and virus-free. Unfortunately, full security of the email c= annot be ensured as, despite our efforts, the data included in emails could= be infected, intercepted, or corrupted.

Sure, perfect secrecy / security cannot be achieved.=C2=A0 But, for instanc= e, signing and encrypting your mail sufficiently lower the chances that it = would be tampered with and read by adversary third party respectively.

Unfortunately, you neither sign your mail, nor I can find your key to send = you an encrypted one: it is not published neither at open keyserver network= (for now represented by keyserver.ubuntu.com), neither at= proprietary keys.openpgp.org.=C2=A0 And gmail.com, of c= ourse, does not provide webkey-directory, let aside DANE.

>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Therefore, the recipient should check the email for threa= ts with proper software, as the sender does not accept liability for any da= mage inflicted by viewing the content of this email.*

It seems, that you have really decided to scare all your clients off. :-)


--
Kind Regards

Begley Brot= hers Inc.

  1. The content of this email is confiden= tial and intended for the=20 recipient specified in message only. It is strictly forbidden to share=20 any part of this message with any third party, without a written consent of the sender. If you received this message by mistake, please reply to this message and follow with its deletion, so that we can ensure such a mistake does not occur in the future.
  2. This message has been= sent as a part of discussion between Begley Brothers Inc. and the addresse= e whose name is specified above. Should=20 you receive this message by mistake, we would be most grateful if you=20 informed us that the message has been sent to you. In this case, we also ask that you delete this message from your mailbox, and do not forward=20 it or any part of it to anyone else. Thank you for your cooperation and=20 understanding.
  3. Begley Brothers Inc. puts= the security of the client at a high priority.=20 Therefore, we have put efforts into ensuring that the message is error=20 and virus-free. Unfortunately, full security of the email cannot be=20 ensured as, despite our efforts, the data included in emails could be=20 infected, intercepted, or corrupted. Therefore, the recipient should=20 check the email for threats with proper software, as the sender does not accept liability for any damage inflicted by viewing the content of=20 this email.
  4. The views and opinions included in this email be= long to their author and do not necessarily mirror the views and opinions of the company.=20 Our employees are obliged not to make any defamatory clauses, infringe,=20 or authorize infringement of any legal right. Therefore, the company=20 will not take any liability for such statements included in emails. In=20 case of any damages or other liabilities arising, employees are fully=20 responsible for the content of their emails.
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