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From: "Thompson, David" <dthompson2@worcester.edu>
To: Jack Hill <jackhill@jackhill.us>
Cc: guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [EXT] Re: [EXT] Re: Medium-term road map
Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 08:24:01 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJ=RwfYUtvfnwUbObO5uRSY1DiexMjvGdBbGAi_O9Jnkjq1BJQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.2005061518310.5735@marsh.hcoop.net>

On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 3:46 PM Jack Hill <jackhill@jackhill.us> wrote:
>
> > Long story short: Guix need not worry about this.
>
> I think we may want to do some work in Guix to support this workflow
> conveniently. That work could include having a secrets management service,
> bootstrapping new hosts for access to the service, or writing system
> services that can be easily configured for different secret management at
> deploy time. It's fun to think about what we could do, but as Ludo’
> suggested elsewhere in the thread, we'll find out by trying to deploy more
> hosts with more complex configurations. I hope to be able to do so soon.

To that end, I think a good starting place would be to research the
available free secrets management applications (my knowledge is a few
years out of date), package it, and write a shepherd service for it.
From there, we could see what additional integration would be useful
for clients (your other servers being clients of the secrets
management server.)  I don't know if this would actually work, but I
can picture a world where service configuration objects are aware of
secret fields (some new Scheme data type) and will arrange to lazily
generate config files in a just-in-time fashion on the server when
shepherd starts the service.  Sounds like a real fun project, IMO!

Okay, so I take it back: Guix *should* worry about this, but in a very
specific way that is orders of magnitude better than every other
configuration management system out there, just like the rest of Guix.
:)

- Dave


  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-07 12:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-25 13:37 Medium-term road map Ludovic Courtès
2020-04-25 16:23 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-05-03 20:13   ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-04-25 21:38 ` Jack Hill
2020-04-26  1:22   ` Josh Marshall
2020-05-03 20:18   ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-05-06 17:03   ` [EXT] " Thompson, David
2020-05-06 18:58     ` Efraim Flashner
2020-05-06 19:46     ` Jack Hill
2020-05-07 12:24       ` Thompson, David [this message]
2020-04-26 16:06 ` zimoun
2020-04-26 18:20   ` Christopher Baines
2020-05-03 20:07     ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-05-04 10:32       ` zimoun
2020-04-26 18:14 ` Christopher Baines
2020-05-03 20:11   ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-04-27  8:16 ` Andy Wingo
2020-04-27 13:06   ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2020-04-30 21:27   ` Joshua Branson
2020-05-05 23:50 ` raingloom

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