From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Catonano Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] services: openssh: Add 'subsystems' option. Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2017 13:28:55 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20170302084448.2ff6ce96@scratchpost.org> <87fuivxukg.fsf@lassieur.org> <20170305145026.zgoayn46kvpz5ksy@abyayala> <20170307214959.16038114@scratchpost.org> <87r3284x8s.fsf@lassieur.org> <87h92t1qts.fsf@gnu.org> <20170316204527.lnkgc2vot4uqk633@abyayala> <20170317053620.GA16076@jocasta.intra> <20170317162131.GA4354@jasmine> <20170317175802.GB30584@jocasta.intra> <20170318110952.xhhobwl5ep4mlbpj@abyayala> <87k27mn6zl.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f403045f19ac1bc404054b007001 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57365) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cpDTh-0007Hu-6P for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2017 08:29:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cpDTg-0005bq-0Q for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Mar 2017 08:29:01 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87k27mn6zl.fsf@gnu.org> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Mathieu Lirzin Cc: guix-devel --f403045f19ac1bc404054b007001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2017-03-18 12:45 GMT+01:00 Mathieu Lirzin : > ng0 writes: > > > John Darrington transcribed 2.0K bytes: > > > >> I am glad that at least one person can express a point of view and be > polite about > >> it at the same time. If you think it is fine, then it is your right > to use it. > >> > >> I find it confusing and clunky in most cases, and I refuse to use it. > I also > >> reserve the right, when others advocate its use, to present my own > point of view. > >> > >> If anyone chooses to interpret that as rude, sexist, intolerant or > whatever - then > >> that is their problem and not mine. They will have to get over it. > > > > Okay, so you are just one of those ignorant assholes who drive people > > away from projects because they think their are the middle of the > > universe and other problems don't exist because they have never > > experienced them and oh deity forbid if someone insults their holy > > grammarbooks and linguists. Cool. Glad that we have solved that. > > > > That's actually the first time that I'm not polite. But I can't be > > polite to ignorant people. I just won't work with you anymore and ignore > > you, as you choose to ignore other people with your behavior and > > invalidate their existence and bother them with your view of what's > > "correct" and what's not. > > This reaction is highly intolerant and not acceptable in this community. > Disagreeing doesn't justify being rude or insulting people. > I wholeheartedly disagree ng0's reaction is legitimate and due. ng0 is being shown hostility. I don't see why hostility is legitimate when one side expresses it but it's not legitimate anymore when a reaction comes. I don't see why John should be allowed to say "I will raise this and if anyone feels hit they will have to deal with it" and people's reaction to this wold be not acceptable. The result of ng0's reaction to be deemed unacceptable would be that a transgender person raising the issue of gendered pronouns would be dealt with a shrug and their reaction would be dealt with... what ? I find your remark not only ridiculous. I find it discriminating. --f403045f19ac1bc404054b007001 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


2017-03-18 12:45 GMT+01:00 Mathieu Lirzin <mthl@gnu.org>:
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ng0 <contact.ng0@cryptolab.net> writes:

> John Darrington transcribed 2.0K bytes:
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>> I am glad that at least one person can exp= ress a point of view=C2=A0 and be polite about
>> it at the same time.=C2=A0 =C2=A0If you think it is fine, then it = is your right to use it.
>>
>> I find it confusing and clunky in most cases, and I refuse to use = it.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I also
>> reserve the right, when others advocate its use, to present my own= point of view.
>>
>> If anyone chooses=C2=A0 to=C2=A0 interpret that as rude, sexist, i= ntolerant or whatever - then
>> that is their problem and not mine.=C2=A0 They will have to get ov= er it.
>
> Okay, so you are just one of those ignorant assholes who drive people<= br> > away from projects because they think their are the middle of the
> universe and other problems don't exist because they have never > experienced them and oh deity forbid if someone insults their holy
> grammarbooks and linguists. Cool. Glad that we have solved that.
>
> That's actually the first time that I'm not polite. But I can&= #39;t be
> polite to ignorant people. I just won't work with you anymore and = ignore
> you, as you choose to ignore other people with your behavior and
> invalidate their existence and bother them with your view of what'= s
> "correct" and what's not.

This reaction is highly intolerant and not acceptable in this commun= ity.
Disagreeing doesn't justify being rude or insulting people.

I wholeheartedly disagree

ng0= 9;s reaction is legitimate and due.

ng0 is being shown ho= stility.

I don't see why hostility is legitimate when= one side expresses it but it's not legitimate anymore when a reaction = comes.

I don't see why John should be allowed to say= "I will raise this and if anyone feels hit they will have to deal wit= h it"

and people's reaction to this wold be not = acceptable.

The result of ng0's reaction to be deemed= unacceptable would be that a transgender person raising the issue of gende= red pronouns would be dealt with a shrug and their reaction would be dealt = with... what ?

I find your remark not only ridiculous. I = find it discriminating.

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