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To: Julien Lepiller Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::834; envelope-from=zimon.toutoune@gmail.com; helo=mail-qt1-x834.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Guix Devel Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail (headers rsa verify failed) header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=UGbLL/b/; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 1.09 X-TUID: aMzlp4ykBhbY Hi, On Thu, 19 Nov 2020 at 17:46, Julien Lepiller wrote: > >I am still confused. Why cmake-minimal needs all the protocols that > >curl supports? What I was expecting is that cmake-minimal depends on > >curl-minimal and that both packages are minimal. :-) > > >Because all in all, we end with a chubby Guix; which matters when > >packing it (Docker or system). > > I don't think it matters: no reference is retained from guix to openldap, so it won't be added to the pack or docker image. It's only required at build time. So each time I run "guix environment guix", I potentially download it. It is annoying when it is not possible to keep the store (for example, the storage for the store is small or some CI external automation build, etc.) or when the substitutes of dependencies are not available (burn CPU) or when the bandwidth is not cheap, etc. Maybe "packing it" is not the good terminology, but remove unnecessary dependencies matters. IMHO. All the best, simon