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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Guix-devel Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.00 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=WJshFyvX; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 9C93C9407E2 X-Spam-Score: -3.00 X-Migadu-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu X-TUID: XkZlTyTzaIFr Hi Ludo, On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 at 12:29, Ludovic Court=C3=A8s wrote: > Following discussions on IRC, I=E2=80=99ve created a new =E2=80=98ungraft= ing=E2=80=99 branch > that does nothing but ungraft things. > > The rationale is that grafts incur additional overhead when installing > things (the time to create those grafts), so it=E2=80=99s good to clean t= hem up > once in a while. Ungrafting in a dedicated branch means we know the > branch is =E2=80=9Csafe=E2=80=9D, unlike more exploratory branches like = =E2=80=98staging=E2=80=99 and > =E2=80=98core-updates=E2=80=99. I have missed the discussion on IRC and I do not understand the rationale. What's the point of "ungrafting"? All the best, simon