From: zimoun <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>
To: "Björn Höfling" <bjoern.hoefling@bjoernhoefling.de>
Cc: guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Policy to remove obsolete packages
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2019 13:40:53 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJ3okZ3eJ1VrunyOYxJS7_0ajmLgtp8Cd_D9ekO=Eh5-1UrsvQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190205112443.41fd031b@alma-ubu>
Hi,
I understand but I am not sure to see the points and/or advantages
about a policy.
From my opinion, obsolete package is not well-defined and define
cleanly what an obsolete package is will be bikeshedding. :-)
And I think that deprecated should come from upstream.
However, a popcon of the downloaded substitutes should provide which
packages are "important" and which are less; to have a better
"priority list"---if needed.
To me, all the QA dance of the "classic" distros come from two key
points: missing the rollback and the dependency hell. Because it is
hard to rollback if the update/upgrade fails, the user must be sure
that nothing will break.
Since Guix fixes these two points by design, it does not need a strong
QA, I guess.
But, I do agree with you that it should not be possible that `guix
pull [options]' then `guix build <package>' fail. Never. :-)
And maybe the "CI" should have a mechanism such that: pull from
branch-unstable, refresh and eval then automatically push to
branch-stable if ok, otherwise blame the committer who will manually
fix and will push again to branch-unstable. The regular user can add
the both branches with the channel mechanism and they will be more
sure that `guix pull --commit=' will always work and obtain the last
half baked cutting edge stuffs too.
And I also do agree that it is hard to find the information what it
went wrong. For example, recently I was not able to find what breaks
clang@3.5.
Well, talk does not cook the rice. :-)
(I mean not sure my words are relevant)
All the best,
simon
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-02-07 12:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-02-04 11:16 Policy to remove obsolete packages Björn Höfling
2019-02-04 11:51 ` Pjotr Prins
2019-02-04 18:06 ` Andreas Enge
2019-02-04 22:18 ` Leo Famulari
2019-02-04 23:47 ` zimoun
2019-02-05 10:24 ` Björn Höfling
2019-02-07 12:40 ` zimoun [this message]
2019-02-08 8:47 ` Björn Höfling
2019-02-04 22:52 ` Ludovic Courtès
2019-02-05 10:13 ` Björn Höfling
2019-02-05 21:31 ` ng0
2019-02-05 22:47 ` swedebugia
2019-02-05 23:52 ` ng0
2019-02-06 22:32 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2019-02-07 12:42 ` swedebugia
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