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It avoids > > one click when it is green. ;-) > > I'm not sure what page this relates to? For example, I am going to this webpage: https://data.guix.gnu.org/repository/1/branch/master/package/docker And from that page, I have to click to say (More information) below this 2020-04-20 20:23:33 and then I arrive to this webpage: http://data.guix.gnu.org/revision/b023a8acd38b57b159aeeef0ac6de73960f97e8b/package/git/2.26.2 Nice! All green!! :-) Another example, I am going to this webpage [1]: [1] https://data.guix.gnu.org/repository/1/branch/master/package/docker and say I click to (More information) below 2020-05-06 16:18:16 and then I arrive to this webpage: https://data.guix.gnu.org/revision/758f32afdbc6cf6018a2e76eef5085f6b693c15a/package/docker/19.03.7 Bad news! Docker is broken. Going back to [1], now I try another (More Information) until I find one green. Well, to avoid to click, I would like to have the red icon (X) or the green icon (V) close to (More information) to easily visualize which ones I want to click. Hope it makes sense? > > The 2) is a bit more complicated. First does it make sense? Because > > the computation of a derivation is probably required, isn't it? Well, > > it is related to [1], isn't? > > > > Is it possible to fetch such "binary availability" from the Data > > Service? If yes, how? > > > > [1] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2020-03/msg00337.html > > So this is something that I'd suggest doing without the Guix Data > Service. There's has-substitutes? in (guix store) to fetch the > substitute availability for a store path, and that will use the > substitute servers the user has configured, which could be completely > different to the ones the Guix Data Service knows about, so doing this > just from the users machine is more representative. Cool! Thank you for the tip. I will give a look. > > Note that from the webpage [2], the link bottom redirect with http:// > > without the 's'. I do not know if it matters. > > > > [2] http://hpc.guix.info/package/git > > I didn't think there was much value in forcing HTTPS for > data.guix.gnu.org, so it works with or without TLS currently. For people in paranoid mode? ;-) Cheers, simon