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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Guix Devel Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=s+Dsrg3m; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.71 X-TUID: qF7JWrEnvH4Q On Wed, 14 Oct 2020 at 22:57, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > >> It's tricky; --target is != --system: --target is a cross-build. IOW, > >> --system => (%current-system), --target => (%current-target-system). [..] > Yeah, this can be confusing. The target is a triplet > (https://www.gnu.org/savannah-checkouts/gnu/autoconf/manual/autoconf-2.69/html_node/Specifying-Target-Triplets.html), > e.g. i586-pc-gnu, x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu; system is specified by the > platform, or interpreter name; see e.g. gnu/packages/bootstrap.scm: > glibc-dynamic-linker for a list of platforms. Ah ok! Sorry, you already told me: --target != --system. Just previously. Well, the Zen of Python (python -c 'import this') seems appropriate here: "Although that way may not be obvious at first unless you're Dutch". :-) Even if it is only inherited from autoconf. :-) Cheers, simon