From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: zimoun Subject: Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2019 22:18:49 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87ftk4hbhu.fsf@gnu.org> <87wodfi44x.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37709) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iHvwl-0000HW-Lg for guix-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Oct 2019 16:19:05 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iHvwk-0006VB-F8 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Oct 2019 16:19:03 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87wodfi44x.fsf@gmail.com> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Dimakakos Dimos Cc: Guix Devel , GNU Guix maintainers Hi, First, just to give numbers about what means 18 GNU maintainers. Here [1] is the list of the GNU packages. I let you count but I guess the list is more than 300 packages. Therefore, one can guess that the GNU maintainers are more than 300. Well, even if these 18 people are awesome, there are 18 compared to more than 300. Therefore, now this statement is just a call. [1] https://www.gnu.org/manual/blurbs.html Second, we can complain about the wording of the statement, the publishing way, asking for concrete facts, etc. but this statement is not a surprise. Is it? Really? It would have perhaps been better received if the 18 signatories did as Thomas Bushnell [2]: speaking individually about their own experience [3] of long time contributor. But does it change their key point: "We believe that Richard Stallman cannot represent all of GNU."? [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Bushnell [3] https://medium.com/@thomas.bushnell/a-reflection-on-the-departure-of-rms-18e6a835fd84 To conclude, this statement will not change as we interact here on Guix and how we are trying to be welcoming. And instead of spending our resource on I-am-not-sure-what, let congrats everyone for the core-updates merge of today! and let be happy about the last blog talking about bootstrapping and say big thank you to Janneke (and the bootstrappable team) for their amazing work on this. Please. It appears to me more important than what I perceive as "splitting hairs". All the best, simon