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From: zimoun <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>
To: Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@tobias.gr>
Cc: Guix Devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Using #true and #false everywhere?
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 16:26:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJ3okZ23sZ6DpS9K96Ygt+MXNBDmOvTPT3wsFwYSWCZs7UVqkQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87eelt81lf.fsf@nckx>

On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at 15:32, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice <me@tobias.gr> wrote:
> zimoun 写道:
> > Maybe it is on my part but it returns #t and not #true.  So
> > somehow
> > you need to know that #t is also #true or fix the REPL to return
> > #true
> > and not #t.
>
> Right.  Making e.g. define-record-type ‘return #true’ would not
> change what's actually returned under the hood.

It is what I have tried to express [1]:  I am not convinced that
replacing in the Guix source by #true or #false instead of #t or #f
really simplifies and helps the newcomer.  Because all the internals
use #t or #f.  For example, there are often #t or #f in Backtrace
messages (random example [2]).  REPL is another example.  Somehow, you
have to know what #t and #f means, even if you are a newcomer.

The only remaining argument IMHO in favor of the change is cosmetic
(not newcomer friendly): it is more pleasant to read #false here and
there in the source code.  Well, I do not have a strong opinion,  I am
still doubtful.


> (Thank goodness!  That would be fun :-)

Maybe, but it is not a simple change, from what I understand. :-)

All the best,
simon

1: <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2020-10/msg00307.html>
2: <http://issues.guix.gnu.org/43518>

ps:
my last bikeshed message on this topic. :-)


  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-20 14:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-16 10:38 Using #true and #false everywhere? Ludovic Courtès
2020-10-16 13:19 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2020-10-16 13:36   ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2020-10-18  1:36     ` Maxim Cournoyer
2020-10-18  2:22       ` Bengt Richter
2020-10-19 20:45       ` zimoun
2020-10-21  9:56         ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-10-20  9:57     ` Andreas Enge
2020-10-21  9:59       ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-10-21 11:21         ` Andreas Enge
2020-10-21 15:52           ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-10-21 11:51         ` Roel Janssen
2020-10-16 16:24 ` Vagrant Cascadian
2020-10-16 23:45 ` Danny Milosavljevic
2020-10-20 10:32 ` Andreas Enge
2020-10-20 11:10   ` Ricardo Wurmus
2020-10-20 12:02     ` zimoun
2020-10-20 12:59       ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2020-10-20 13:11         ` zimoun
2020-10-20 13:32           ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2020-10-20 14:26             ` zimoun [this message]
2020-10-20 15:48               ` Taylan Kammer
2020-10-21  1:25     ` Mark H Weaver
2020-10-21  6:18       ` Ricardo Wurmus
2020-10-21 10:04         ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-10-20 12:45   ` zimoun
2020-10-20 12:55     ` Andreas Enge
2020-10-21 10:20   ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-10-24 18:29 ` Robin Templeton
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-10-16 22:06 Miguel Ángel Arruga Vivas
2020-10-17  0:25 ` jbranso

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