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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Guix Devel Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=CU2Gbfod; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.71 X-TUID: DmrGhrMlDjt9 Hi Ricardo, On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 12:20, Ricardo Wurmus wrote: > annoyed by the fact that people turn to Reddit for help with Guix =E2=80= =94 a > venue only very few of us frequent =E2=80=94 I wondered if our help chann= els are > visible enough. Maybe it is "cultural" or/and "generational" thing and we cannot do really better. Maybe some people prefer channels as Reddit because they are a bit "afraid" by email and/or IRC, especially maybe on official channels. Maybe because when someone has a problem, the first thing they does is a query to popular search engines and then browse some Reddit-kind of channels, so maybe they feels like it is a good entry point. Maybe some people appreciate the voting system (upvote, Discourse, etc.) to be "rewarded". Etc.. Well, I am not convinced it is an issue about visibility. :-( > =E2=80=9Cguix --help=E2=80=9D prints this: > > Report bugs to: bug-guix@gnu.org. > GNU Guix home page: > General help using GNU software: > > I think it should explicitly point to https://guix.gnu.org/help/, maybe > right before =E2=80=9CGeneral help using GNU software=E2=80=9D. Yes, it cost nothing and could improve. All the best, simon