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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: "guix-devel@gnu.org" Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=EV6kxHTe; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.71 X-TUID: 2WOSQ6YzEioF Dear, On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 at 05:40, Lulu wrote: > > Have you already tried GNU Guix? The package manager on foreign > > distro? The full Guix System? > > If yes, are you comfortable with? Feedback is very welcome. :-) > > I tried Guix on a foreign distro but ran into some problems with > SELinux and locales. Do you recommend using GuixSD on a virtual > machine, or do you think a foreign installation would be easier for > development? I reckon a setup for internal development wouldn't be > the same as a setup for the end-user. I think I might need to work > directly from the trunk, so maybe I need to get familiar with > `guix environment' for testing? I'd appreciate some tips on this. I am using the Guix package manager on the top of Debian; installed via the Binary Install. Let's refer to Guix as the package manager. :-) The nice point with Guix is the flexibility and hackability for the end-user. Once you are familiar with [1], the next natural step is: git clone https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git cd guix guix environment guix --pure ./bootstrap ./configure --localstatedir=/var/ make -j 4 # whatever number fits your machine Then you have a fresh compiled Guix that you can run with: ./pre-inst-env guix help But don't cut the corners. The first step is to have a working Guix. Which distro do you use? About the locales, if you start a thread on help-guix@gnu.org describing your problem, then the setup will be fine. :-) About SELinux, I do not know... I do the job on the foreign distro side. You could ask about specific issue on 'help-guix' or folks on #guix will advice you. [1] https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/en/guix.html#Getting-Started > > Well, last but not least, what topic you may be interested in to work on? > > I decided on the task to add a `guix git log' subcommand, out of the > two tasks on the Outreachy page. :-) [1] > > Aside from that, can you tell me more about how this mentorship > process works? Is there a regular schedule with meetings or progress > reports or such? Nice! Basically, the key to success is communication. Raise the hand _as soon as possible_. Then my advice is: everyday log what you are doing. It may be only one or two lines, sometimes more. Once a week (at least), collect the items and send me (privately) maybe with some patches or a branch to pull for testing. The idea is to know your progress and your blocking points and then help you. On a weekly or bi-weekly basis, voice (or video) chat with any mean which suits you (especially your timezone). > [1]: https://www.outreachy.org/outreachy-december-2020-internship-round/communities/gnu-guix/#add-a-subcommand-showing-gnu-guix-history-of-all-p All the best, simon