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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Guix Devel Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Scanner: scn0 X-Spam-Score: 0.09 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail (rsa verify failed) header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=CP0UmskC; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 2001:470:142::17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Scan-Result: default: False [0.09 / 13.00]; GENERIC_REPUTATION(0.00)[-0.49714818967466]; DWL_DNSWL_FAIL(0.00)[2001:470:142::17:server fail]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2001:470:142::/48:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; IP_REPUTATION_HAM(0.00)[asn: 22989(0.11), country: US(-0.00), ip: 2001:470:142::17(-0.50)]; R_DKIM_REJECT(1.00)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.50)[cached: eggs.gnu.org]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:-]; MAILLIST(-0.20)[mailman]; FORGED_RECIPIENTS_MAILLIST(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_FAIL(0.00)[2001:470:142::17:server fail]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:22989, ipnet:2001:470:142::/48, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[larch=yhetil.org]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[zimontoutoune@gmail.com,guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; URIBL_BLOCKED(0.00)[bokr.com:email]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; HAS_LIST_UNSUB(-0.01)[]; FORGED_SENDER_MAILLIST(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[gmail.com : SPF not aligned (relaxed),none] X-TUID: 36ZSTrLFgGO1 On Wed, 6 May 2020 at 22:01, Bengt Richter wrote: > Just so I don't have to re-run something very timeconsuming to see the verbose version. In this case, you can always run the command using the verbose option. It is the same with all the CLI I know, one cannot have the milk and the butter for the same price. ;-) > IOW, if there isn't one, I think there ought to be a default detailed log > produced (while teeing through optional verbosity/brevity filters or the user's grep. This is an interesting idea. Something under '/var/log/guix/per-user'. But this is a piece of work -- from what I understand -- and I am not sure if it will provide really more useful information. A lot of information is already tracked, e.g., "guix pull -l", "guix package -l", "guix build -n" and "guix build -d", "guix graph", "guix size". What seems missing is the origin of the packages (substitute by which server or built locally). Well, I am not convinced by the usefulness of a detailed log mechanism. I do not know... All the best, simon