From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Wilson Bustos Subject: Re: Ricardo, here is kind question to provide facts on your statements about RMS Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2019 18:53:24 -0300 Message-ID: References: <87a8bp6uit.fsf@elephly.net> <20191009062444.GM8197@protected.rcdrun.com> <7a4eb1d00fc6df962870a948f3304310700c0ff5.camel@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000167c710594815109" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54196) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iIJtt-0005dZ-1z for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2019 17:53:42 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iIJtr-0000Xz-Gr for guix-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2019 17:53:40 -0400 In-Reply-To: <7a4eb1d00fc6df962870a948f3304310700c0ff5.camel@gmail.com> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: svante.signell@gmail.com Cc: Guix-devel , Richard Stallman , Jean Louis --000000000000167c710594815109 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think even more important, When I read that statement I thought every Guix collaborator is in favor of that statement, or at least a major number of them. But I get surprise to not find any mail to ask to anyone about this, There is not a vote. Someone just think in that way and use the site to show the Guix community is against Stallman as a representation of GNU. The fact in here is there is not public discussion about this. And seems it will never gonna happen. Why? Maybe the person who do this is afraid of not being able to impose his point of view to the community. I hope be wrong and I hope we can get an answer. All the best. El mi=C3=A9., 9 oct. 2019 a las 17:19, Svante Signell () escribi=C3=B3: > Dear Guix, and other people signing that statement. > cc: RMS > > I do also have problems with your campaign against RMS. Publishing such > a statement as a blog entry for Guix is very inappropriate. Especially > in the context of the recent defaming campaign on him personally on > social media, making him to leave FSF and MIT. What do you really want > to achieve?? > > If you have something serious to report against RMS, do so publicly and > address RMS himself, for him to respond. Or address him directly, not > by stating things in a blog nobody could ever respond to. > > Thank you! > > On Wed, 2019-10-09 at 08:24 +0200, Jean Louis wrote: > > > > I have seen your signature here: > > https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/ > > > > My opinion on your signing of that defamatory, harassing, biased and > > fact-less statement is here: > > > https://gnu.support/richard-stallman/Ludovic-Court%C3%A8s-Guix-is-accusin= g-Stallman-of-Thoughtcrime-on-his-own-domain-GNU-org.html > > > --000000000000167c710594815109 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I think even more important,=
When I read that statement I thought every Guix collaborator is i= n favor of that statement,
or at least a major number of them.
But I get surprise to not find any mail to ask to anyone about t= his,
There is not a vote.

Someone just think in that = way and use the site to show the Guix community is against Stallman as a re= presentation of GNU.
The fact in here is there is not public = discussion about this.
And seems it will never gonna happen.<= br>
Why? Maybe the person who do this is afraid of not being able to impose his point of view to the communi= ty.
I hope be wrong and I hope we can get an answer.
All the best.

El mi=C3=A9., 9 oct. 2019 a las 17:19, = Svante Signell (<svante.sign= ell@gmail.com>) escribi=C3=B3:
Dear Guix, and other people signing that statement. cc: RMS

I do also have problems with your campaign against RMS. Publishing such
a statement as a blog entry for Guix is very inappropriate. Especially
in the context of the recent defaming campaign on him personally on
social media, making him to leave FSF and MIT. What do you really want
to achieve??

If you have something serious to report against RMS, do so publicly and
address RMS himself, for him to respond. Or address him directly, not
by stating things in a blog nobody could ever respond to.

Thank you!

On Wed, 2019-10-09 at 08:24 +0200, Jean Louis wrote:
>
> I have seen your signature here:
> https://guix.gnu.org/blog/201= 9/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/
>
> My opinion on your signing of that defamatory, harassing, biased and > fact-less statement is here:
> https://gnu.support/richard-stallman/Lud= ovic-Court%C3%A8s-Guix-is-accusing-Stallman-of-Thoughtcrime-on-his-own-doma= in-GNU-org.html


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