From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp10.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:403:4789::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms9.migadu.com with LMTPS id EPAcFSee9GQIHQAAG6o9tA:P1 (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 03 Sep 2023 16:54:31 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:403:4789::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp10.migadu.com with LMTPS id EPAcFSee9GQIHQAAG6o9tA (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 03 Sep 2023 16:54:31 +0200 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 76E2D4231F for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2023 16:54:30 +0200 (CEST) Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=lease-up.com header.s=2017 header.b=r4doqjYA; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1693752871; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=9Vx64c6SoOooVW7GM8xuXGmUSy7eWzSJnJ3vo3wJlW8=; b=MZOmH7N6ZPY4xHDv6Av5kbQmHkCV8scTkEUW0mky+DY6psYZw7oQBSdc2vR0Tk8hNECEVg 5t4EXEuovDRhLraBB+AcgMQ0AGPYrK2ySfSQTsSxMz18YlP3lBx17ywTaSnFIPHRjcMZsI lDTqNK6x7Hvbu0+G0qiSWO7swxJQEIqyOAr1p1tMEiJQ/Xqe87sgqh7odvEU73hlL1muwi hOeEXQQkNA+Tva48eJ3LW497hXr7LfY+lQwpRwtWIDmnkzayKnm5rE12q0LrHoX9SmFbU/ /V0/mVvQnwXhFCmj+vm5Ky/jCG+ysoHfonq/akf1NyxnDswL9f71hW5yGUBkcQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=lease-up.com header.s=2017 header.b=r4doqjYA; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1693752871; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=gtVxGCT9f5xvdDpEGuCYJYtEIRBCiFpDrge8jcniFhdpodnNzaYl/BQ0QVSQWnFIXf+HIc ihc8M2eDf5Md/1ot5iC3PL2HhVzG+GgNp5TJJ5Iucp1Dfuwxgjexj/3arE2PFuy2fE34e4 YXB4UeQWApFwBqaq9PSvOHW/IqyGZ5ClranHxNDq72kah1DfspJjYnNap1BC7Sty/UiiVJ iwfng8tgK6tebTXtRbHARXX17Zuc3cu2ZPNPpZRTrWU96+cW/sfatbPMFBkIaUKfr/My/o iCL+ZpXTUmcJRoiGIQC+X6uxPK7LAiI8jCR2T6hPrnQ7Oe8Bo3akhxT1WUxnoQ== Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qcoUK-0008CT-N2; Sun, 03 Sep 2023 10:54:08 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qcoUI-0008CB-SO for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2023 10:54:06 -0400 Received: from sail-ipv4.us-core.com ([208.82.101.137]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_CHACHA20_POLY1305:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qcoUG-0006Hd-7h for guix-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Sep 2023 10:54:06 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; s=2017; bh=ERtsCB/SNg/U8Vg g0Iof3i/v9Ql5XZAKE1qQH4VD9aM=; h=cc:to:subject:date:from:in-reply-to: references; d=lease-up.com; b=r4doqjYAmUXWs497OP42Tk0Hc9sUsNDqljKSOMRT NcDg6HlXqoaITvALvLsjh/kMFeA6b4ugJN5gUNgmX3OdOj4RRDWhR8aoGLhidg3+9R3cJv Ii6jfsfenW+3JqpLriRvlkIc3pw0G7sTqDO3RhQrc54cQh9EQvT/Yi/l5wtcY= Received: by sail-ipv4.us-core.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id f8ac421e (TLSv1.3:TLS_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256:256:NO) for ; Sun, 3 Sep 2023 14:54:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lf1-f45.google.com with SMTP id 2adb3069b0e04-500760b296aso782089e87.0 for ; Sun, 03 Sep 2023 07:53:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyKZKaZ1TeQtyPH+GlLn4eF5rxfIpZAPQialxKVrOhp26+vBeHF h2L6eQfBKh2Eb2fQdXWC6H8HrwHME8S+lUcDWCI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGlTgQwwCR7mug7Zsc6V1T4m/0vR/iDos9ZCoJMtjxNEyUcRIzcmClP3dn+Hm0dsilhm/9KA81mDESwI0ERExw= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:3d8a:b0:500:943f:11c9 with SMTP id k10-20020a0565123d8a00b00500943f11c9mr3745667lfv.3.1693752837855; Sun, 03 Sep 2023 07:53:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <871qfsuvad.fsf@gmail.com> <8e74c4ac-a6f3-9127-7e13-593a2eb70432@gmail.com> <87a5ubqxm6.fsf@gmail.com> <877cp8965f.fsf@xelera.eu> <87pm30tu3z.fsf@riseup.net> <87zg23bss4.fsf@elephly.net> <87msy3bl4v.fsf@elephly.net> In-Reply-To: <87msy3bl4v.fsf@elephly.net> Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2023 07:53:20 -0700 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: How can we decrease the cognitive overhead for contributors? To: Ricardo Wurmus Cc: paul , guix-devel@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=208.82.101.137; envelope-from=felix.lechner@lease-up.com; helo=sail-ipv4.us-core.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-to: Felix Lechner From: Felix Lechner via "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 76E2D4231F X-Migadu-Scanner: mx1.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -5.59 X-Spam-Score: -5.59 X-TUID: ufO28haWbSWh Hi all, On Sun, Sep 3, 2023 at 3:35=E2=80=AFAM Ricardo Wurmus = wrote: > > I won=E2=80=99t contribute to Mumi any more. Giving it up doesn=E2=80=99= t hurt my > feelings. I=E2=80=99d be glad to see it gone. For what it's worth, I like Mumi. One day, I hope to help offer Scheme diffs there. Perhaps it will take just a pull from the base commit and guile-sexp-diff. [1] Maybe Git can eventually use such diffs, too. As a group we deserve better. I like the email-based workflow. I used Debbugs for years. Mumi is an incremental, man-in-the-middle approach that could help us migrate gradually away from the underlying bug tracker. I just wish Mumi could hide old patch sets. And again, ideally the newest patches would be presented in a nicely colored Sexp diff. Thanks for contributing to this discussion, and also for making Guix a better operating system for everyone! Kind regards Felix [1] https://codeberg.org/lechner/guile-diff-sexp