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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: guix-devel Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Scanner: scn0 X-Spam-Score: 0.09 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail (rsa verify failed) header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=Z632xtgp; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 2001:470:142::17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Scan-Result: default: False [0.09 / 13.00]; GENERIC_REPUTATION(0.00)[-0.49656075840924]; DWL_DNSWL_FAIL(0.00)[2001:470:142::17:server fail]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2001:470:142::/48:c]; R_DKIM_REJECT(1.00)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; IP_REPUTATION_HAM(0.00)[asn: 22989(0.12), country: US(-0.00), ip: 2001:470:142::17(-0.50)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:-]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MX_GOOD(-0.50)[cached: eggs.gnu.org]; MAILLIST(-0.20)[mailman]; FORGED_RECIPIENTS_MAILLIST(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_FAIL(0.00)[2001:470:142::17:server fail]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:22989, ipnet:2001:470:142::/48, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[larch=yhetil.org]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[vincentlegoll@gmail.com,guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; URIBL_BLOCKED(0.00)[guix-install.sh:url]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; HAS_LIST_UNSUB(-0.01)[]; FORGED_SENDER_MAILLIST(0.00)[]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[gmail.com : SPF not aligned (relaxed),none] X-TUID: Ne2Hoci05Ldu Hello, > In the intervening years, interest faded away as free software friendly > MIPS hardware became more rare. I grabbed a gnubee during the crowdfunding campaign, but the CPU is too low spec to do a lot of compilation on it. > Perhaps it would be more honest to officially remove the MIPS port now? > > Technically that would involve removing it from the manual, from > configure.ac, and little more. >From the manual or from the CI, to let the build farm do more useful things I'm not against, but is it really making maintenance difficult by still bei= ng in the codebase ? > If there=E2=80=99s a need for it in the future, and developments happenin= g for > MIPS in general (for the GNU tool chain, the kernel, etc.), then we can > always start a new MIPS port. The kernel side looks good enough to me, there's a lot of openwrt running on mips and it looks well maintained. > Until then, POWER9 and perhaps RISC-V seem to have more > appeal to free software hackers. I have grabbed an old power8, that I also intend to put guix on. > What do people think? I may not be able to put huge time in it so won't ask you to keep it just for me. I'll restart working / trying things in the foreign archs area after my list of pending things is drained a bit (guix-install.sh & tarball CI, native-inputs lint warning chasing) but that's only wishful thinking for now. --=20 Vincent Legoll