From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Vincent Legoll Subject: Re: Please put the system-configuration into the image Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2017 13:42:59 +0200 Message-ID: References: <2af008a3-ba55-1894-4cad-3afee197b225@crazy-compilers.com> <20170905180529.yk2kphegofhu7rft@abyayala> <1ee6f79c-a1b2-fe38-7cb2-e3ca4220985f@crazy-compilers.com> <87h8wezz9n.fsf@gnu.org> <9d3029d4-8069-4c95-702e-6194f7fa8cd2@crazy-compilers.com> <20170907124306.yy7seidv66ajlkka@abyayala> <8d2454ec-c878-0e30-fa06-5fd00f017560@crazy-compilers.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58520) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dqHge-00006y-KK for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Sep 2017 07:43:05 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dqHgd-00055L-Px for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Sep 2017 07:43:04 -0400 In-Reply-To: <8d2454ec-c878-0e30-fa06-5fd00f017560@crazy-compilers.com> List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Hartmut Goebel Cc: guix-devel I didn't want to get involved in this but feel the need to chime in to add my +1 on Hartmut's idea. On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 12:11 PM, Hartmut Goebel wrote: > Am 07.09.2017 um 14:43 schrieb ng0: >> You can take any system configuration file and build a shared or free-st= anding >> vm with the "guix system" function. It > > I'm afraid, you did not get the point (No offence meant!): I know that I > can do this. I also know that I can maintain configs via git. But all > this is the developers perspective. Yes I also feel it that way > If somebody is downloading the ISO-image and installing GuixSD on some > machine =E2=80=93 stand-alone, no other GuixSD systems around: He/she wou= ld > store the system-config somewhere on the machine, change it and > "reconfigure" and hack around. (At least this is what I would do.) That's what I did during my previous attempts at trying GuixSD. Did this in a QEmu VM. > So > why there is no starting-point for system-config in the image? Why would > the user need to download it from some (no quite obvious) internet-addres= s? +1 > I also would expect to have the config for this very system at hand. > Yes, the manual has a section "Building the Installation Image", but > *if* I ever recognize this section, I'd still have to dig into the > source and fetch the actual file. > > For making live easier for new users and for encouraging them to re-gain > the power over their computer, we should IMHO serve the config on > silver plate. > > I hope my motivation is more clear now. You're not alone --=20 Vincent Legoll