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Fri, 22 Sep 2023 22:19:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Nathan Dehnel Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2023 00:19:32 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: The e(macs)lephant in the room and the Guix Bang To: atai@atai.org, guix-devel@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2001:4860:4864:20::30; envelope-from=ncdehnel@gmail.com; helo=mail-oa1-x30.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Spam-Score: -6.54 X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -6.54 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx1.migadu.com X-Migadu-Queue-Id: A92E961722 X-TUID: VSs9snL2L+J5 ________________________________ >Hi, for some reason emacs has become the elephant in the room of the discussion on contributing to guix. >Regardless of one's opinion of emacs, I just want to add that this is itself strange. I have contributed some (package definition) patches to guix, all without using emacs. >I am not an emacs user, so emacs is not necessary for contributing to guix. For what it's worth, the emacs-motif package in Guix was my addition. I don't use it myself. I don't use emacs either (because it's so impenetrable), so I just use kate instead, which isn't a great environment for me either. It has rainbow parens, but it doesn't balance them, which is a hassle. I keep using it though due to lack of time to browse through alternatives. I heard about guile-studio, but it doesn't appear to have a dark mode, and I imagine trying to add one would require a bunch of emacs-style screwing around with it. https://archive.fosdem.org/2022/schedule/event/lispforeveryone/ This is the only setup for coding in lisp that has actually looked attractive to me. (Coding in wisp with colored blocks that transpiles to s-expressions) Though I haven't had the time (and probably expertise) to set it up for myself.