I was aware of the discussion thread, however I could not find out what the current state is? Do we plan to modify this behaviour in the next release? The core-updates thing makes sense, thanks. 2017-12-03 8:19 GMT+01:00 Gábor Boskovits : > Ok, thanks for clarification. > I > > 2017-12-03 0:29 GMT+01:00 Leo Famulari : > >> On Sat, Dec 02, 2017 at 05:28:51PM +0100, Gábor Boskovits wrote: >> > Sometimes while working in guix I run into problems because: >> > 1. a tarball was removed or modified upstream >> > >> > It would be great to have the ability to install the latest release in >> all >> > the supported ways on all supported architectures, and have the ability >> do >> > guix pull without problems. >> > Last time I tried that it did not worked, because one of the upstream >> > linux-libre tarballs was removed. It would be nice if we could afford to >> > host the sources, so that at lesat a bare-bones guixsd suffered no such >> > problems. >> >> We actually do host the sources, but Guix usually tries fetching them >> from upstream first, which can be annoying. We are discussing this here: >> >> >> >> > 2. some packages take very long time to build (notably guile) >> > >> > It would be nice, if we could provide the substitutes that the current >> > core-updates gnu-build-system needs. That would make development that >> needs >> > to be done on core-updates much more pleasant to those who are working >> in a >> > restricted hardware environment. >> >> We use the core-updates branch like this: >> >> 1) For a couple months we just push changes to core packages to the >> branch without worrying about if it works or not. >> 2) After some time, we try building the branch and fix everything that >> is broken. Once that is done, we merge it into the master branch, which >> is what `guix pull` uses by default. >> >> So, for most of the life of a core-updates branch, it's likely that no >> packages will be buildable, and thus we don't even try, so there are no >> substitutes. >> >> Once we start building it, substitutes are available in the normal way. >> > >