From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp10.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms9.migadu.com with LMTPS id YEGOL8VVMGRMHAAASxT56A (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 07 Apr 2023 19:41:25 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp10.migadu.com with LMTPS id YI6cLsVVMGR8fwEAG6o9tA (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 07 Apr 2023 19:41:25 +0200 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6B1DB1FDA6 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 2023 19:41:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pkq4v-0003i1-FT; Fri, 07 Apr 2023 13:40:49 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pkq4q-0003hs-C6 for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2023 13:40:44 -0400 Received: from lepiller.eu ([89.234.186.109]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pkq4n-0005pJ-On for guix-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Apr 2023 13:40:44 -0400 Received: from lepiller.eu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lepiller.eu (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 5f3e1bed; Fri, 7 Apr 2023 17:40:36 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=lepiller.eu; h=date:from :to:subject:in-reply-to:references:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=dkim; bh=SOT0Fmlgl2w5 kxKu3Y9NR/y/DM1ccUfRAAA5QNltNZI=; b=cV+VSyiotXiCmR683MY6GtDj2EfG uIlytUjBXo0KH2ZcVY/RSgcROxDA+ISfjLiF5RGNxKaa7T+dtSHVuoy01zVAa1tu UY/RlHiv5SRNVOian2WioMZwmfv/eX0SFrUZi3GxNfa0rBXC3e5pHWGf2jjSLmEf mlaG27auKzjAapMZIjZCfldIkxXQFrn4rcSNoJHXSCRb6XbB+/FqwZcUkQh8F63m l+tPDHn24zZygcYWPnhmnSjocp8mhl/USFgIlcDzOqIrUd25kCgqCcXAg3mJa8R9 gttFHNaAjUVPlFKcYqFyxtWpgZxChG5/pq2XGAEcS7LbBVtRmL1+KBYk4w== Received: by lepiller.eu (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id ba701d98 (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256:NO); Fri, 7 Apr 2023 17:40:35 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2023 19:39:44 +0200 From: Julien Lepiller To: guix-devel@gnu.org, Konrad Hinsen , Josselin Poiret , Guix Devel Subject: Re: Time travel accident User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: References: <87v8i86qng.fsf@jpoiret.xyz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=89.234.186.109; envelope-from=julien@lepiller.eu; helo=lepiller.eu X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: guix-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1680889285; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=aPC5g9HPSu/VqSPAijslrnWz1d0hHThXktWqLPKNkEy17pzZylL92d6f7HZBUotCm3ImyR d9nVY2Tc+hti7ERWJQwycKfmF+yIDcHpLBgd3Gc0iRYw1/JcU+w3wIHALQcyLo09YsZQvT Spl6zoRto5y2JmHbkAriJrXoq2Nx3JNmMsoG4zp4t4WXAoQ4bdzGM5otGQp0OjWqKZjHJ2 0yjp7moLi4yxYcyubh7Y0U4b2PtslD5clkETAhz9PZ+eknnlpM+b+xhElrOBPWTF3gBQql WuTtJ29EAHrGFCakx83PICyK3RfKwDDh4Ajd7001jEWjjmP2DHzLFrxYUZ5Lew== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=lepiller.eu header.s=dkim header.b=cV+VSyio; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=lepiller.eu; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1680889285; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=nMg11+xRxUua2Z+aKqhI/3EpRIg/PsqC7atDyIHv2/I=; b=RrU0Nckqg6buS6M6Hn91ffw4juKd2VxRALyCBBUVoldc+axrHEw6yBq6+t6MnNljsHr04f c/go8271ScwCoOeo9CmO3FLfEm+aMCVcMIpBCqdXtv0fh1JaUGW/z3DpEqwA+51Ky/OEjx dS4uAdlI0jpw5ImJSf9a/O6AHNZkKp24OzrEumsncWGAdMp+6XQVcUa+m264gnTxckE3qL tj0T2SReswcahsFmKmm6l4iyIXpOgI8Eg8INDt7LnfglbQCHNH80EPRihQandqSFFQf28y omf81niikeGe7UIX5XVqDT5eIWeX4MkBdg4WfOOOpHsGA+6tYUVOTYES2cXG5g== X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -4.91 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=lepiller.eu header.s=dkim header.b=cV+VSyio; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=lepiller.eu; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Spam-Score: -4.91 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 6B1DB1FDA6 X-TUID: 601GSf2qJ1uL If you're able to find the derivation, you could set your system time and g= uix build /gnu/store/that=2Edrv=2E this should not require network at all, = so guix shouldn't complain=2E Le 7 avril 2023 18:10:13 GMT+02:00, Konrad Hinsen a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0: >Hi Josselin and Julien, > >Thanks to both of you for your suggestions! > >Josselin Poiret writes: > >> We have --without-tests=3Dpackage already, see --help-transform for all >> available package transformations=2E The one annoying thing is that >> disabling tests will change the derivation and you thus will not recove= r >> the same store item (it might be bit-for-bit equivalent, but its path >> will not be the same), preventing you from using substitutes either=2E > >For my case, that sounds OK=2E There are no substitutes for that >three-year old commit any more, so I am building everything=2E And I don'= t >care about bit-for-bit equivalence, I just want to run Python 3=2E8=2E2= =2E > >> Though, I'm not sure it will help you here because openssl is built as >> part of the `guix time-machine`'s build process, which afaik cannot be >> transformed=2E > >Ahhh=2E=2E=2E there's the bad news=2E > >> By the way, we can also "fix the past" by using guix/quirks=2Escm=2E S= ince > >Oohhh=2E=2E=2E There's always one more surprise in Guix! > > >Julien Lepiller writes: > >> Changing your system date should let it build=2E > >Interesting idea! I tried, but it doesn't work: Guix itself complains >about a certificate failure if I set the clock three years back=2E > >Maybe "guix time-machine" should have an option for setting the clock to >the commit timestamp just for the build process=2E=2E=2E > >Cheers, > Konrad=2E >