From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Fis Trivial Subject: Re: Have GPGPU support in guix? Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 23:32:59 +0000 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59985) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fB7Qn-0001VW-7M for guix-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2018 19:33:06 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fB7Qj-0006Mp-6M for guix-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2018 19:33:05 -0400 Received: from mail-oln040092002047.outbound.protection.outlook.com ([40.92.2.47]:15941 helo=NAM01-SN1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fB7Qi-0006MM-Tz for guix-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2018 19:33:01 -0400 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US List-Id: "Development of GNU Guix and the GNU System distribution." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+gcggd-guix-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" To: Joshua Branson Cc: "guix-devel@gnu.org" Joshua Branson writes: > Fis Trivial writes: > >> Hi Guixs, this is actually a feature wish. >> >> I tried to use guix to manage many of my softwares on my system, but >> some dependencies are missing which is blocking a full transition to >> Guix based system and development environment. Most notably is GPU >> computing support. >> >> My daily routine is doing machine learning, which requires GPU for >> computing nowadays. Currently I need to use CUDA from NVidia, as many of >> you might know, it's not free software, not even an open source >> software. However, it's the de fato toolchain in deep learning >> community, so basically it's a must have dependency for most of the >> related libraries if you want decent performance. Time passes and >> hardwork have been done, now we have some libraries ported to OpenCL or >> HIP (from AMD), it's not mature yet but I think we have a pretty good >> shot at working them out in near future. > > Since this is a GNU endorsed distro, guixSD will never have an official > way to install or use CUDA. There might eventually be an unofficial way > to install it someday via a guile potlock (or is it the guild command). > But I wouldn't recommend using it. No one will seriously test it or > ensure that it works well. > I want to get rid of CUDA, I am really tired of dealing with it. That's why I'm counting on OpenCL or HIP. >> >> However, I wanted to manage all of these with guix so that we can have a >> unified dependency tree. Currently there are a few options for OpenCL >> runtime. Namely, beignet, neo from Intel, ROCm stack from AMD, the POCL >> project and the implementation in mesa. > > This is probably doable. > >> >> I tried to package beignet (an old OpenCL runtime from Intel) but it >> wasn't successful due to failed tests (it failed from recognizing >> device). >> https://github.com/trivialfis/guixpkgs/blob/master/opencl.scm >> >> To support GPU computing, we need a full stack of softwares, from kernel >> to user space libraries. When it comes to low level part I got have >> litte to no knowledge, so I am hoping someone here can provide some >> help/insight for having GPU computing libraries in Guix. >> >> Thanks. Thanks.