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From: Julien Lepiller <julien@lepiller.eu>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>,
	"Arun Isaac" <arunisaac@systemreboot.net>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org, Zhu Zihao <all_but_last@163.com>
Subject: Re: Word order in Guix l10n
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 10:06:29 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BCF4769B-B946-4E0F-AE1D-F61531908B27@lepiller.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871rfh28do.fsf@gnu.org>

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This specific syntax looks ok, but we need to limit ourself to the common syntax between guile and lisp, because that's what gettext supports.

We should use this kind of syntax everywhere we have more than one argument. Also thinking about rtl languages, it's probably important for them, though I'm not sure how gettext works for them.

Le 22 décembre 2020 10:00:35 GMT-05:00, "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org> a écrit :
>Hi,
>
>Arun Isaac <arunisaac@systemreboot.net> skribis:
>
>>> This looks like a real issue.  I’m surprised this isn’t already
>>> addressed though: after all, ‘printf’ format strings have the same
>>> problem, right?  How does everyone else deal with that?
>>
>> For C's printf format strings, gettext supports special syntax to
>> specify argument order. See
>>
>https://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/html_node/c_002dformat-Flag.html
>
>Oh, I see.
>
>> A German example is provided on that page.
>>
>> "%2$d Zeichen lang ist die Zeichenkette `%1$s'"
>
>With (ice-9 format), as has been suggested before, we should be able to
>do away with the “argument jumping” syntax (info "(guile) Formatted
>Output"):
>
> (format #f "~1@*~d Zeichen lang ist die Zeichenkette `~0@*~a'" "ab" 2)
>
>It’s a bit awkward though, in particular because we have to jump to the
>previous argument (0 and 1 here instead of 1 and 2).
>
>Does xgettext support that syntax?  We’ve had troubles before with ~*.
>
>If it does, where should we use this syntax in lieu of the simpler
>forms?  Everywhere?
>
>Thanks,
>Ludo’.

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-22 15:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-15 10:53 Word order in Guix l10n Zhu Zihao
2020-12-15 12:25 ` Julien Lepiller
2020-12-18 15:04   ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-12-18 18:03     ` Arun Isaac
2020-12-22 15:00       ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-12-22 15:06         ` Julien Lepiller [this message]
2020-12-23 12:22           ` Miguel Ángel Arruga Vivas
2020-12-27 22:13             ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-12-22 15:45         ` Miguel Ángel Arruga Vivas
2020-12-15 13:11 ` Arun Isaac
2020-12-15 13:51   ` Zhu Zihao

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