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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 58A35E630 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx10.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -7.33 X-Spam-Score: -7.33 X-TUID: Ygm1hqWj/m47 In terms of finance, our last blocker is that I still don't have access to = the account, but Andreas does, so we should be able to take responsibility = for the cost relatively easily=2E Ideally, we would take ownership of the machine(s), so we don't overcompli= cate our finances by having to reimburse someone regularly=2E Le 9 janvier 2024 19:12:44 GMT+01:00, "Ludovic Court=C3=A8s" a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0: >Hello Christopher, > >Christopher Baines skribis: > >> Ludovic Court=C3=A8s writes: > >[=2E=2E=2E] > >>> Christopher Baines skribis: >>> >>>> As previously set out, I'm planning to stop hosting the data service >>>> instances this year=2E While I would like to stop hosting the server = for >>>> data=2Eguix=2Egnu=2Eorg, >>> >>> I forgot the outcome of previous discussions, but it seems to me that >>> the service itself and all the data it accumulated over the years are >>> super valuable=2E I would be sad to see it go! >> >> There was a discussion back in April, but no action came directly from >> it=2E >> >> Just having data=2Eqa=2Eguix=2Egnu=2Eorg was discussed, and at least >> concentrating on getting to a sustainable hosting situation there seeme= d >> like a sensible priority=2E The longer history provided by >> data=2Eguix=2Egnu=2Eorg does have value though in my view=2E >> >>> Is there something we can do to not lose it all? It could be >>> distributing responsibility, reducing the scope, ensuring hosting is >>> managed collectively by the project, etc=2E WDYT? >> >> Since that discussion, I have disabled the database dumps and backups, >> which has reduced (to 62=E2=82=AC per month) the hosting costs (althoug= h >> obviously not having backups isn't ideal)=2E It's possible to further >> reduce the hosting costs as well by switching away from a VM to a >> physical machine at Hetzner=2E >> >> But yeah, given that having at least one data service instance is a key >> part of keeping the bordeaux build farm running, managing the hosting >> through the project seems to be the way to go=2E I'm just not sure how = we >> can get there, or what I can do to move things in that direction=2E > >Like you, I would have hoped for more reactions=2E Unfortunately, I=E2= =80=99m not >offering to help here because I have more than enough on my plate and >even a 1+ month backlog on guix-devel=E2=80=A6 > >Maintainers, what=E2=80=99s your take on this? > >Guix Foundation, is there any blocker to taking responsibility for >covering hosting expenses, possibly rediscussing the scope and cost? > >Let 2024 be a thriving Guix year! :-) > >Ludo=E2=80=99=2E >