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From: "Léo Le Bouter" <lle-bout@zaclys.net>
To: Mark H Weaver <mhw@netris.org>, guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [opinion] CVE-patching is not sufficient for package security patching
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 07:07:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9f737d23e85e11ae4810373b043dd9c78eb0b5ae.camel@zaclys.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87v99qit39.fsf@netris.org>

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On Tue, 2021-03-16 at 19:19 -0400, Mark H Weaver wrote:
> That said, I strongly disagree that we should "never backport patches
> ourselves in most cases".  The only way to do that, while addressing
> security flaws, would be to promptly update even our lowest-level
> libraries in response to CVEs, of which there is a steady stream.

Fortunately I think that lots of these core package upstreams also have
good CVE-issuance practices. For the Glib care in particular, I think
they are good, I consider acceptable to backport patches, everyone is
doing it, upstream is cooperative and works towards that same goal.

To everyone else in general, I understand we have to ship a working
system, and I want that too, that's why I said we should "strive" to,
but it doesnt mean we should break things, of course. By that I mean
that we shouldnt leave packages unmaintained without updates for too
long even without CVEs or other security notices issued. At some point,
if a package is of no use, no users show up and it's painful to update,
we should also consider removing the package or archiving it in a third
party channel we could create like "guix-archive", "guix-ugly" or
"guix-love-me-please".

Léo

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-03-17  6:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-16 11:10 [opinion] CVE-patching is not sufficient for package security patching Léo Le Bouter
2021-03-16 11:17 ` Jonathan Brielmaier
2021-03-16 11:27   ` Léo Le Bouter
2021-03-16 19:15 ` Leo Famulari
2021-03-16 23:19 ` Mark H Weaver
2021-03-16 23:49   ` Leo Famulari
2021-03-17 11:54     ` Guix moving too fast? zimoun
2021-03-17  6:07   ` Léo Le Bouter [this message]
2021-03-17  6:21   ` [opinion] CVE-patching is not sufficient for package security patching Léo Le Bouter
2021-03-20 11:19   ` Ludovic Courtès
2021-03-22 13:44     ` raingloom
2021-03-23 16:22       ` Joshua Branson
2021-03-23 23:53         ` Mark H Weaver
2021-03-23 17:56       ` Leo Famulari
2021-03-23 22:54       ` Ricardo Wurmus
2021-03-24 19:51         ` Leo Famulari
2021-03-24 20:24           ` Vincent Legoll
2021-03-24 20:32             ` Léo Le Bouter
2021-03-24 20:55             ` Leo Famulari
2021-03-25 14:22           ` Mathieu Othacehe
2021-03-25 18:19             ` Leo Famulari
2021-03-30  8:42           ` Buying AArch64 hardware? Ludovic Courtès

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