From: jbranso@dismail.de
To: "zimoun" <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>, guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Could Guix System eventually run on top of HyperbolaBSD ? slightly off topic
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2022 21:41:35 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <976043c660b8dbe1cbe9ee0e4d9f96bb@dismail.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86lesw2dsa.fsf@gmail.com>
July 14, 2022 6:24 AM, "zimoun" <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 at 18:44, Joshua Branson <jbranso@dismail.de> wrote:
>
> Well, I am missing where it is announced. Could you be more specific?
Someone else already provided the link, but someone on irc did ask me
where the source code for HyperbolaBSD is? I can't find it, and that
is a bit troubling...
>
> If you run OpenBSD kernel and OpenBSD userland, why not just run an
> OpenBSD system? :-)
I love that Guix is the Emacs of distros! It's cool to customize it!
And easy! But OpenBSD "seems to be more secure" than GNU/Linux. And
Linux is huge! And OpenBSD has some awesome software: pf, spamd, httpd,
and some other stuff that their marketing tells me is good.
Maybe a good first step would be for guix to provide a hardened linux
package.
> Well, Debian is working (maybe the project is stalling?) on running GNU
> userland using GLibc on the top of a FreeBSD kernel. The conclusion is:
> it is a piece of work. :-)
>
> https://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu
>
> What I miss with your proposal is: are you interested by OpenBSD
> userland software and you would like them running on a Linux kernel? Or
> are you interested by specific OpenBSD kernel feature and you would like
> be able to run GNU software on it?
I would love to use a secure, extensible, microkernel/exokernel that has a
universal guixy configuration language. Guix GNU/Hurd System vm is probably
the best candidate for this, but my understanding is that the "childhurd"
(a GNU/Hurd running on top of GNU/Linux) is not very stable. Possibly because
the vm image does not have a swap space. There was an open bug report for it
but I cannot find it.
Has anyone here had a good experience with a childhurd? Not a criticism,
I just have not heard many people say that the childhurd is stable/awesome.
>
> I think, similar as Josselin, that it requires a lot of work because
> many low-level features are kernel dependant. Therefore, it appears to
> me more being worth to focus on smoothing the WSL2 experience, focus on
> the Hurd, or to attempt something on the Darwin kernel.
>
> Cheers,
> simon
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-07-19 21:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-07-11 22:44 Could Guix System eventually run on top of HyperbolaBSD ? slightly off topic Joshua Branson
2022-07-12 0:16 ` indieterminacy
2022-07-12 2:18 ` Joshua Branson
2022-07-12 3:56 ` Akib Azmain Turja
2022-07-12 13:39 ` Joshua Branson
2022-07-12 8:25 ` Josselin Poiret
2022-07-12 13:36 ` Joshua Branson
2022-07-12 20:12 ` Csepp
2022-07-14 10:23 ` zimoun
2022-07-14 10:40 ` Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
2022-07-14 13:06 ` zimoun
2022-07-14 15:38 ` Vagrant Cascadian
2022-07-15 11:09 ` Csepp
2022-07-19 21:46 ` jbranso
2022-07-19 21:44 ` jbranso
2022-07-19 21:43 ` jbranso
2022-07-19 21:41 ` jbranso [this message]
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2022-07-20 16:03 Raghav Gururajan
2022-07-20 16:49 ` Maxime Devos
2022-07-21 16:27 ` zimoun
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