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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: guix-devel-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Guix-devel" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1625675863; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature:autocrypt:autocrypt; bh=DGOX4XFWg+9D0ZYdJ9p9MyVBYw3LFQMSUylrUIbrdos=; b=f6D1gfN/PtIgrvrAqtBPSxz5TAKYXX/yoVcSwZXxzvf/5f83k2RPe5RpexerzSHhhgNJO5 f4K1upp4amKh9g7jR/JzdJTV0Qq//6QNsw4ry0bjYdI6o+Xi7RclABnvJVb8hKhzTcklBl O/ZTxMbkC9QS9yrgiJ8SjtabLfvJ49pzbBTRXb3P50aZGvENgLcsuISOUQ74gUMKzCPyFY eYISM9WAji0SEJzdk7oKfo1hIH3VPLGlTcz0fxGSoMm4Rkp6c4KeM/tJrxpjvvaSO77SAJ m8fedG459z4+gooUB9MJW58YYQqUDLisplfgX8ObFDBBVzaJXFMooT/wCvQlRg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1625675863; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=VtqQsBOcUADQ2qTiV3nv6bUMKokM8NJXuGNtZIkuZThAQqpeSScrNw9KKCiTMF2seVpHyd L2NxGZfi8mj+2cHXeacP7mLRLkmeSINsIoORGYk/dZH+OIjSUAFL5leffYEBckx5tEhlnO FdrKgy19Vu9y7EEdNjC2bFkC3BRbTJtxZIsdWY0QarKWi/ORW/UQditP2EbZiddwsnblru YDsl9qpibeW7OQ2cHbAIIaRImWf/Be/yg2vWaA8H/u0dow72tWydJrw/z9SOpE1opOwkDu 6x7ldyGsnysjUTuF40zUtJ25XP9OxLFkEOVzkKuY/Mno8ns2Rkg94H0oAvI3Lw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=disroot.org header.s=mail header.b=WoBzsFph; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=disroot.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.61 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=disroot.org header.s=mail header.b=WoBzsFph; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=disroot.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=guix-devel-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: B29F524620 X-Spam-Score: -2.61 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: xDudp6EXsBIR Hi amar, this is unrelated to GNU or Guix, but if you want to avoid C/C++ it may be worth taking a look at https://www.redox-os.org, which is written in Rust — of course there's also the GNU Hurd (and I'm sure many other projects), but this is the only one I'm aware of that has "avoid using C/C++" as one of its stated goals (apart from some more specific things like MirageOS, which uses OCaml a lot). ~stuebinm On 07.07.21 17:01, guix-devel-request@gnu.org wrote: > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2021 11:51:45 +0000 > From: "Amar M. Singh" > To: guix-devel@gnu.org > Subject: New Operating System and Kernel development > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hello all, > > Is there any research into new Operating Systems and kernel > development? I'd like to announce 'heh' that I'm starting on just > such a project :) > > I have a few ideas about what i want to build but that's getting far > ahead of myself, I think I should build it to run on Qemu or Xen > hypervisor. The most dreaded thing i want to avoid is C or C++. The > source code shall go on to https://codeberg.org/nly. And always > appreciate feedback, in the end I hope to make something that is > usable and used rather than purely for amusement purposes :) > > Thank you for reading so far, > ~amar