From: Ellen Papsch <ellen.papsch@wine-logistix.de>
To: "Ludovic Courtès" <ludo@gnu.org>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Unencrypted boot with encrypted root
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2020 14:37:39 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <94dc6c0586bea6772a345b4d5f10138a576f541f.camel@wine-logistix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87369f82x7.fsf@gnu.org>
Am Dienstag, den 07.04.2020, 22:19 +0200 schrieb Ludovic Courtès:
> Ellen Papsch <ellen.papsch@wine-logistix.de> skribis:
>
>
> Sure, but what happens when you reconfigure? You still need to have
> that file around so it can be added to the initrd.
>
Does it really have to be added to initrd? From my other reply:
> These may be dangerous waters. The key file in initrd is like a house
> key under the mattress. A malicious process could look in the well
> defined place and exfiltrate the key. Think state trojan horses. A
> random name would not suffice, because other characteristics may help
> identifying the file (i.e. size).
> I think* Guix would burden itself too much with secrets. It's
> something for the user and the installer should just make it more
> convenient, with a nudge to a more secure setup. The key file should
> be stored in a user specified location, preferably a pen drive (which
> is otherwise not used). It can be removed, so no read can occur by
> arbitrary processes. A passphrase should be added as backup.
>
> (*) as non-guru
reconfigure would not have to touch the file at all, if it were a user
supplied file name. I'm aware other files are often put in the store by
references in operating-system (or inlined). The secrets file on the
other hand should just be assumed to be there. Initrd should try to
mount the drive.
Best regards
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-04-08 12:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-04-02 8:59 Unencrypted boot with encrypted root Pierre Neidhardt
2020-04-03 15:32 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2020-04-03 15:44 ` Ellen Papsch
2020-04-03 16:13 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-04-03 17:16 ` Ellen Papsch
2020-04-03 19:56 ` Guillaume Le Vaillant
2020-04-04 9:02 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-05-17 15:39 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-05-20 8:49 ` Guillaume Le Vaillant
2020-05-20 9:42 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-04-03 19:44 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2020-04-04 8:12 ` Ellen Papsch
2020-04-04 10:18 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2020-04-06 12:00 ` Ellen Papsch
2020-04-07 9:46 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-04-07 11:34 ` Ellen Papsch
2020-04-07 20:19 ` Ludovic Courtès
2020-04-08 12:37 ` Ellen Papsch [this message]
2020-04-07 15:05 ` Alex Griffin
2020-04-07 16:47 ` Vagrant Cascadian
2020-04-08 12:25 ` Ellen Papsch
2020-04-08 15:07 ` Alex Griffin
2020-04-08 16:22 ` Vagrant Cascadian
2020-04-08 7:57 ` Pierre Neidhardt
2020-04-08 12:19 ` Alex Griffin
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